Ukraine War and Politics

[Paul Saver]

 

[Paul Saver]

 

[cycleguy2300]

It's almost as if those who have the most experience with russia understand the fight will be theirs all too soon if russia isnt stopped NOW.

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[BigRed]

It's almost as if those who have the most experience with russia understand the fight will be theirs all too soon if russia isnt stopped NOW.

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Good for them.

 

[Havok1]

It's almost as if those who have the most experience with russia understand the fight will be theirs all too soon if russia isnt stopped NOW.

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Except all but 2 of those countries are currently falling below the 2% minimum defense spending agreement. And of the two that are not, one of those two stopped fueling the proxy war. Nice attempt at trying to make it look like it’s based on their expertise with Russia, but its actually their lack of defense spending in combination with the small size of their country/population that results in small quantities of equipment representing large percentages of their stockpiles. If those countries gave the same amount, but were spending at least the 2% minimum, those percentages would drop a fair amount. Besides, rhey know they are relying on us for their protection anyway, and we will buy them new stuff.

 

[Paul Saver]

Agreed. And as pHucked up as the world system is now, I am still DAMN grateful to be an American Patriot. Nuke em' all, let GOD sort it out.

 

[cycleguy2300]

small size of their country/population that results in small quantities of equipment representing large percentages of their stockpiles

Thank you captain obvious. Thats exactly what GDP% and charts like this help us equate.

Giving nearly 2/3rds of your equipment away is 2/3rds of your equipment regardless of if it's 200 or 20,000...

The military equivalent of widow's mite...

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[Havok1]

Thank you captain obvious. Thats exactly what GDP% and charts like this help us equate.

Giving nearly 2/3rds of your equipment away is 2/3rds of your equipment regardless of if it's 200 or 20,000...

The military equivalent of widow's mite...

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The point is, your attempt at making this seem impressive is a complete failure.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

The phrase "give till it hurts" is relative, what makes you hurt may not make me hurt. Sheesho!!

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[cycleguy2300]

The point is, your attempt at making this seem impressive is a complete failure.

A multitude of nations giving huge proportions of their military stockpiles is impressive whatever nay-saying ninnies may say to obscure the plain facts.

What's more is it demonstrates that those most effected believe russia needs to be stopped and Ukraine's sovereignty preserved. Belief often requires action and they have acted in defence of others in the name of freedom.

May it ever be that freedom has such friends as these nations, they are helping Ukraine water the tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants.

I say chapaeu!


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[Havok1]

A multitude of nations giving huge proportions of their military stockpiles is impressive whatever nay-saying ninnies may say to obscure the plain facts.

What's more is it demonstrates that those most effected believe russia needs to be stopped and Ukraine's sovereignty preserved. Belief often requires action and they have acted in defence of others in the name of freedom.

May it ever be that freedom has such friends as these nations, they are helping Ukraine water the tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants.

I say chapaeu!


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What you say is nothing more that your own opinion. You can be as impressed as you’d like. I can be as unimpressed as I’d like. The fact that they are spending below 2% of GDP indicates that they are not as worried as you think. Notice that Estonia is on that list despite the graph indicating they have not actually provided a single thing to Ukraine. The spin you put on this is just your spin. Them spending below the 2% minimum is fact.

 

[cycleguy2300]

russia moving TO civilian areas to launch attacks... they started the war and use civilian just like hamas does; as protection from attacks and targets to attack.



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[Dakar34]

People and nations always find a way to morally justify what is in their (financial) interests. We’re no different. Sad for Ukraine, but c’est la vie (suckers). Who was it that said the only thing worse than being our enemy was being our friend?

 

[leVieux]

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It is past time to let this thread die.

I know Ben tried by separating it once.

We all have enjoyed opportunity to give our thoughts. Over-&-over.

There is no consensus, and that’s OK with most.

Please let it die !

leVieux

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[Havok1]

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It is past time to let this thread die.

I know Ben tried by separating it once.

We all have enjoyed opportunity to give our thoughts. Over-&-over.

There is no consensus, and that’s OK with most.

Please let it die !

leVieux

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You don’t have to open the thread. It’s interesting for the IO angle.

 

[leVieux]

russia moving TO civilian areas to launch attacks... they started the war and use civilian just like hamas does; as protection from attacks and targets to attack.



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You don’t have to open the thread. It’s interesting for the IO angle.

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Actually I hate to see you two beating on one another. Cycleguy is a good Guy, but your responses seem well-founded & reasoned.

Could we get a truce; or, at east a cease-fire for a while ?

leVieux

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