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10-26-2009, 02:26 PM
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I think he is worried about an officer not knowing the law, just as the store owners have not (or choose to err on the side of THEIR safety).
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10-26-2009, 02:41 PM
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Exactly. I would assume that if anybody can be relied upon to know gun laws, it would be gun shop owners. All they have to keep up with are gun laws. Cops on the other hand have to keep up with gun laws, traffic laws, and all other manner of laws. If the gun shop owners cannot be relied upon to know their laws, it would be foolish to assume that the cops know their laws. I guess my worries are that the federal law which prohibits sale of handguns to persons under the age of 21 could (or would likely) be misconstrued (maybe mis-known is a better word) by law enforcement to mean that possession of a handgun by persons under the age of 21 is illegal.
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10-26-2009, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by strantor
Good grief, if you are going to worry about everything then don't leave the house. Some cop might not know that it is OK to be on the street on Mondays. 
I already explained the reason gun shop owners will not transfer to you. They are trying to prevent being involved in a straw sale. Federal law does not prohibit the sale of handguns to persons under 21. Have you paid ANY attention? That's what I get for trying. I'm out.
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10-26-2009, 04:27 PM
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I'm sorry for having exasperated you man, I didn't mean to try your patience. Thank you for giving me all the information, I really do appreciate. You have a good point. If it were me, I would go for it, but the reason I'm being so finnicky about it is because it's my little sister and I'm a little paranoid when it comes to thinking that she might get in trouble. Again, thanks and sorry,
Charlie
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10-26-2009, 04:39 PM
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Don't sweat it man. And as far as the being paranoid goes I always err on the side of caution. I had a Texas State Trooper pull me over when I was 18 and had a cap and ball .44 black powder revolver with me. He told me that unless his supervisor that was on the way out there told him any different I was going to jail for UCW. I told him it was a black powder cap and ball (no cartridge just powder and a bullet in the cylinder) and it was unloaded and it was legal for me to posses. He said that we'd double check when the supervisor got there I said that was fine. I should take this moment to explain that I also had a loaded 30-30 in the seat without a round in the chamber and it was 0200 or so in the morning. The supervisor said I was fine and hadn't broken the law and the original officer was looking at and playing with the 44 by the end of the traffic stop and it ended there. So yeah if she has it on her hip in the car she will get a bit of a hassle but in the trunk on the way to the range there ain't nothin that says "NO". What txinvestigator was trying to explain is that the law only tells you what you can't do and the rest is left up to the judgement of the citizen. I think that is what he was driving at anyway.
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10-26-2009, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by strantor
You going about this the wrong way. You can only follow the law. You don't have to have permission to own a gun, though some laws do restrict gun ownership. All you can do is follow the laws that are there. You can't worry about non-laws that some ignorant LEO will arrest you for. If that happens, most likely it will get sorted out soon by a non-ignorant LEO. If it still isn't, then that is where lawyers are actually useful. The bottom line is that you should worry about it. Take the punches as they come.
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10-27-2009, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Eli
Only for a FFL.
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10-28-2009, 12:26 PM
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We were briefly on the topic of officers not knowing the law and I wanted to share this with you...
My husband took his CHL class in Sherman yesterday and the instructor shared a story that makes you want to bang your head against a wall. A motorist was pulled over during a routine traffic stop, told the officer he had a CHL and was carrying. The officer confiscated the gun, handcuffed the guy and put him in his cruiser. He then radioed dispatch to ask, "Do you guys know anything about a C-H-L? This guy has a handgun and says he's allowed to carry one, but I don't remember that being legal. What is a C-H-L?" I understand the motorist was released, reunited with his firearm and sent on his way with an apology.
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10-28-2009, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by randomoutburst
WOW!!!!!!! WTF? How do you make it out of police academy without hearing something about a CHL? I don't know what the officers background is so I'll refrain from attacking him but that department should have a sit down instruction and test with that guy.
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