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Old 10-28-2009, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by randomoutburst View Post
We were briefly on the topic of officers not knowing the law and I wanted to share this with you...
My husband took his CHL class in Sherman yesterday and the instructor shared a story that makes you want to bang your head against a wall.
A motorist was pulled over during a routine traffic stop, told the officer he had a CHL and was carrying. The officer confiscated the gun, handcuffed the guy and put him in his cruiser. He then radioed dispatch to ask, "Do you guys know anything about a C-H-L? This guy has a handgun and says he's allowed to carry one, but I don't remember that being legal. What is a C-H-L?"
I understand the motorist was released, reunited with his firearm and sent on his way with an apology.
While I believe your husband was told that story in class, I don't belive, for one second, that it is true.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:28 PM
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I'd believe it. 11 years ago I went through 'cop school' and was a TCLEOSE peace officer. During the course of the class, we were told by an elected constable that STILL holds office that violations of protective orders "are a civil matter"!!!!
For that that don't know, it is a criminal violation for a peace officer to not arrest a person that violates a protective order! In other words, if an officer sees a violation of a protective order and does not arrest, the officer himself is guilty of a crime!
NOTHING surprises me when it comes from a cop's mouth.

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Old 10-28-2009, 01:41 PM
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I'd believe it. 11 years ago I went through 'cop school' and was a TCLEOSE peace officer. During the course of the class, we were told by an elected constable that STILL holds office that violations of protective orders "are a civil matter"!!!!
For that that don't know, it is a criminal violation for a peace officer to not arrest a person that violates a protective order! In other words, if an officer sees a violation of a protective order and does not arrest, the officer himself is guilty of a crime!
NOTHING surprises me when it comes from a cop's mouth.

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Whatever, I have heard dumb things from people too. I don't believe these cop bashing 5 and 6th hand stories. If the person it happened to wants to come in and tell it, that's another story.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:54 PM
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You're right cops are angles and don't do anything wrong. I'm not saying that this is true or it isn't but if that did happen (and I wouldn't put it past some officers that are out there) it is a problem for all of us that this kind of incompetence is coming out of that agency. Like I said before I don't know his background nor was I there to credit or discredit this report, nor have I seen anyone step up and say they were. So tell me why is it so hard to believe that a police officer would do something stupid and that everyone in the general pubic is a liar and a dumb ass?
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I agree. I was shocked, I'm sure the department had a *facepalm* moment and then a nervous laugh.

Unfortunately, things like this do happen which is why citizens need to be aware of the laws and not only depend on police officers.
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Originally Posted by txinvestigator View Post
While I believe your husband was told that story in class, I don't belive, for one second, that it is true.
I had the same instructor (this past saturday) and I know the PD he was talking about. Take a spin through Bells, Tx and get pulled over. You will almost undoubtedly want to shoot yourself.
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its amazing how ignorant some of the very young officers are out there and how little they are trained by their departments before they are turned loose on the streets i was on the streets for fifteen years and instructed for 6 as well as being an FTO. how can anyone not know about a CHL if he he or she passed the teclose test and keept up with inservice training its absurd.
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Originally Posted by willygene View Post
its amazing how ignorant some of the very young officers are out there and how little they are trained by their departments before they are turned loose on the streets i was on the streets for fifteen years and instructed for 6 as well as being an FTO. how can anyone not know about a CHL if he he or she passed the teclose test and keept up with inservice training its absurd.
Granted, I don't remember when the incident I posted earlier actually took place. If it was shortly after the introduction of the bill allowing concealed carry in Texas, perhaps the officer was behind in his learning. Still disappointing, but more understandable than if it were to have happened, say...a month ago.
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I know a couple of 18 and 19 year old guys with CHL's.
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I know a couple of 18 and 19 year old MILITARY guys with CHL's.
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