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    83(R) HB 700 - Open Carry Bill

    I pinged my rep and Lavender about the dual signage.

    Going from proscribed language to door busters would be a big step back. We all should bring up this concern as well with our reps.

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    "I want to thank everyone who has expressed support for Open Carry in our state. The response has been phenomenal ! I also want to say that some folks believe that our bill changes the 30.06 signage requirement. That is not our intent. We worked with the NRA, who has been very supportive, to come up with a bill that would not make a business bar concealed carry because they may have concerns about Open Carry. The new signage applies only to Open Carry. We will have several more attorneys and interested parties review the language next week to make sure that's what we have done. If we missed the mark, it will be fixed. The last thing we want is to diminish our right to concealed carry in an attempt to expand our legal carry rights. Thank you all."

    The above quote is from Rep. Lavender's facebook page on Saturday (1/26/13)
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/George-Lavender-for-State-Representative/118702241499237?fref=ts

    Hopefully this gets straightened out this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero View Post
    Although I firmly believe in constitutional carry, I understand the challenges faced in obtaining such. That said, lets consider the scope of ANY firearm law in Texas. One size fits all may be fine for Rhode Island, but will ultimately fail to cover all the bases in most other states. Metro areas have issues to address that vast rural expanses don't. My hometown has a population of 1200 +-. If I go due North to the Oklahoma border, I'm going to see Childress as the largest "city". Most threats outside of interstate corridors have 4 legs and teeth. I don't think they are gonna " go for my gun". If I visit one of your fair cities, bet your ass, my guns are secure and hidden.
    Just a Western perspective.
    Bingo! We've got at winner! (at least in reference to us out here in the sticks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExecProtec View Post
    "I want to thank everyone who has expressed support for Open Carry in our state. The response has been phenomenal ! I also want to say that some folks believe that our bill changes the 30.06 signage requirement. That is not our intent. We worked with the NRA, who has been very supportive, to come up with a bill that would not make a business bar concealed carry because they may have concerns about Open Carry. The new signage applies only to Open Carry. We will have several more attorneys and interested parties review the language next week to make sure that's what we have done. If we missed the mark, it will be fixed. The last thing we want is to diminish our right to concealed carry in an attempt to expand our legal carry rights. Thank you all."

    The above quote is from Rep. Lavender's facebook page on Saturday (1/26/13)
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/George-Lavender-for-State-Representative/118702241499237?fref=ts

    Hopefully this gets straightened out this week.
    Nice, thanks
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    Any info on to when they will try to have this passed? like a "date" saying they will vote or if it will even proceed?

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    As long as it's legal open carry where it isn't illegal to conceal I'm all for it, so I can choose to do either.
    Would hate to go to a meeting or a fancy dinner party packing a full size 1911.
    Thus concealing needs to stay an option.
    I say this because I think I read something about some state(s) making it illegal to conceal a weapon once they had ok'd open carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soada101 View Post
    Any info on to when they will try to have this passed? like a "date" saying they will vote or if it will even proceed?
    Some bills are effective as soon as they are signed by The Governor and others have an effective date set as part of the bill. Who knows, this bill has an uphill climb.

    As far as dates things are happening, keep checking the link in the first post for updates. If there is a public hearing they give 5 day notification at least.
    A "gun free zone" is tyrannies playground.
    I carry a gun to give me options, not a single solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShootWhenICan View Post
    As long as it's legal open carry where it isn't illegal to conceal I'm all for it, so I can choose to do either.
    Would hate to go to a meeting or a fancy dinner party packing a full size 1911.
    Thus concealing needs to stay an option.
    I say this because I think I read something about some state(s) making it illegal to conceal a weapon once they had ok'd open carry.
    I can't think of a state that revoked concealed carry once open carry was made legal.
    A "gun free zone" is tyrannies playground.
    I carry a gun to give me options, not a single solution.

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    I emailed my Representative (Gary Elkins). He is not showing sponsorship of any bills at this time. We as gun owners need to take the time and write to our representatives to make sure this is a priority.

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    We have a winner here, if I'm reading this correctly. I'll call it stealth open carry.

    SB 299 Relating to the unintentional display of a weapon by a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun. Red below is stricken.

    SECTION 1. Section 46.035, Penal Code, is amended to read as
    follows:
    Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
    HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
    and intentionally [fails to conceal the handgun] displays the
    handgun in plain view of another person in a public place in a
    manner calculated to cause alarm and not pursuant to a justified use
    of force or threat of force as described in Chapter 9.
    (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
    regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the
    license holder's person:
    A "gun free zone" is tyrannies playground.
    I carry a gun to give me options, not a single solution.

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