Seeking "Assault Weapon" & "Cop Killer Bullet" Ban ...

[Gonyea]

Agree lets leave it at that!

[308nato]

Iam sorry but that man will never have my respect as he was a part of the corrupt Chicago political machine.
Thats all I have to say about it .
Oh and I want to see a genuine legal birth certificate not that Hawian
piece of paper.

[DCortez]

Respecting the office is one thing, drinking the political kool-aid is another.

[Grog]

He serves us ... not the other way around. In the military it's different, but this isn't the military. As was said before, he has to prove himself before respect is garnered, but on the same token it's asinine to wish failure on someone with so much control over the country.

+1

I agree with that. I wish him the best because his success is my success. If he fails, then it sux for all of us.

But I'll respect him when he proves his merit.

So far I haven't had a President in my life that I think did a good job. Or earned my respect.

Last good one I remember from my history books was Jackson.

Grog

[lonewolf23c]

Just when I think it's safe to start paying my debt down quicker, stuff like this just reassures me that all my extra money is better spent buying guns and ammo.

I have the same problem. I paid off my only credit card last summer, and now its close to maxed out again just from ammo and gun purchases.

[Gonyea]

+1

I agree with that. I wish him the best because his success is my success. If he fails, then it sux for all of us.

But I'll respect him when he proves his merit.

So far I haven't had a President in my life that I think did a good job. Or earned my respect.

Last good one I remember from my history books was Jackson.

Grog

Maybe we need to brush up on our history... There have been several amazing presidents since andrew Jackson (although this is just a matter of opinion) in fact some of our greatest Lincoln certainly fits the mold by bringing a torn country back together if Booth wasn't a moron and had to shoot him the reconstruction would have been succesfull and we would not have had to deal with nearly the civil rights issues as we have in the last 140 years to include Plessy V. Fergussen and Brown V Board of education. How about Harry S. Truman not only did he have to make the biggest and one of the hardest single decisions of all time but after WWII he saw out the succesfull reconstruction of all of Europe to include the industrial powerhouse West Germany and he saw out the creation of the Japan as we know it today... The last i will point out is Ronald Wilson Reagan. I really shouldn't have to go into this but i will... Every Piece of gear I use today in the Marine Corps i can attribute to Big Ron all of our advanced weapon systems are from his Star Wars system... He was a huge supporter of the 2nd ammendment... He crushed the Soviet Union... and The flourishing economic boom we saw in the 80's and 90's can be attributed to Reaganomics. Please don't tell me there have not been good Presidents since Jackson if thats the case move to Canada.
Further More I will say that after meeting Former President Bush... Although his Presidency was tarnished never in my life have I met a more genuine man nor is there someone more humble or moral... I told him where i was from and here is his quote "Oh Hopkins County I love that Area East Texas is beautiful" then I invited him to my parents ranch and he jokingly told me that he had a ranch of his own. A great Man and a great Commander in Chief.

[M. Sage]

Respect for someone that merely has a title is the same mindset behind tyrannical monarchies. Obama is a paid employee of this country, he should respect us for allowing him the position, and he should act on the will of the country.

He serves us ... not the other way around. In the military it's different, but this isn't the military. As was said before, he has to prove himself before respect is garnered, but on the same token it's asinine to wish failure on someone with so much control over the country.

I like it!

I hope the Obama presidency succeeds for the nation. I do feel, though, that to do this, he'll have to fail at all of his personal and party goals (universal health care, tax increases, gun control, fairness doctrine, etc.)

It scares me that he's been billed as the next Abe Lincoln. Lincoln was one of the worst presidents.

[Gonyea]

Lincoln was one of the worst presidents.

How do you figure

[Sig_Fiend]

How do you figure

He was responsible for causing the Civil War. Despite what public school history lessons teach our kids, the truth of the matter is Lincoln usurped quite a few consitutional rights and far exceeded his authority with some of the things he did. The fact of the matter is, at the time, the northern states were basically bullying the southern states into falling inline and complying with many things the northern states wanted them to do. Basically the northern states and federal government at the time were trying to tell the southern states how to "conduct business". Because the southern states resisted and wanted to do their own thing, the northern states and federal government basically waged sort of a quiet economical war against the southern states through the use of oppressive tariffs, taxes, and various other things I can't remember. Basically what it all boils down to is the southern states wanted the freedom to run their own respective economies how they saw fit, federal government and northern states didn't like this so they worked towards destruction of the economies of the southern states through political and economical means. Things became bad enough economically in the south that they basically forced us to go to war otherwise the southern economies would have been practically destroyed.

The sad part is most children in our public school system are lead to believe Lincoln was this great person, the civil war was about ending slavery and nothing else, and that everyone in the south was nothing except for racists and slave owners. I will tell you this much, Lincoln was not a good person, and he was indeed a racist himself. The man was responsible for bringing down our nation's army on it's own people, and there were several incidences where he was ultimately responsible in the slaughter of many innocent people. He violated many civil rights with his actions.

[Gonyea]

These statements are border line of "one mans terroritst is another mans freedom fighter."

The fact remains although the North was extremly opressive Slavery needed to come to an end for this country to continue and Although yes it resulted in severe bloodshed preserving the Union was more importtant. Also know that the atrocities went both ways and although the North pushed politicly and econimcly it was the South who Seceeded. As far as Lincoln goes he was far from perfect but he did not create the Civil War if you Check the History book A lot of the problems started during the Jackson administration and caried on for several more decades. Furthermore what politician is not corrupt or a scoundrel in some way if they weren't they would not be politicians!