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Old 11-05-2009, 08:57 AM
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If we all shot the same, there would be no need for adjustable sights. I had a Ruger once that I sused for target silohuette (sp) it was awesome till I changed to a different grip and then it wouldn't hit squat. Changed back and it went back to normal. Soooo....each shooter and gun is different making adjustments nice to have.

I have had to change front sights on certain guns for myself and for others so I understand. Glad you got it figured out.

The fun thing is when you completely adjust a gun for "YOU" sometimes others can't hit the broad side of a barn with it. Makes for a fun challenge among friends. LOL
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:46 AM
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Ever shooter I have seen who adjusted his sights to fit "him" was because he had an improper shooting technique.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by txinvestigator View Post
Ever shooter I have seen who adjusted his sights to fit "him" was because he had an improper shooting technique.
I never said anything about "proper" unfortunately not all of us are as perfect as others. I know over the years I have had times where injuries and other circumstances have forced me to change something. Like now for instance, with recent rotator cuff surgery and having my arm in a brace for 3 weeks, should I just quit shooting or carrying or am I allowed to adjust for my imperfections ? Please advise
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:07 AM
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That was 10 yards. as for pace, it was typical Target practice... slow and comfortable.

I own XD's, M&P's, Glocks, Sig's, Rugers, 1911's and now a Steyr and the glock is the only one that shoots high for me... and thats a 17/26/30... all of them do that when i shoot...

If anything im used to shooting low/left...

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Seabear1500 View Post
I never said anything about "proper" unfortunately not all of us are as perfect as others. I know over the years I have had times where injuries and other circumstances have forced me to change something. Like now for instance, with recent rotator cuff surgery and having my arm in a brace for 3 weeks, should I just quit shooting or carrying or am I allowed to adjust for my imperfections ? Please advise

First you defend adjustable sights, saying nothing about injuries, etc., THEN you get defensive.

I have been training people a LONG time. I know what I know. I can't count how many times I have had someone complain it was the GUN shooting high, low, left , right, the ceiling, floor or whatever. Hand the gun to an instructor or other shooter and it miraculously shoots just fine.

If you have an injury OF COURSE you might have to adapt. I had to carry and shoot left handed once when I broke a bone in my right hand.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Bulldog View Post
That was 10 yards. as for pace, it was typical Target practice... slow and comfortable.

I own XD's, M&P's, Glocks, Sig's, Rugers, 1911's and now a Steyr and the glock is the only one that shoots high for me... and thats a 17/26/30... all of them do that when i shoot...

If anything im used to shooting low/left...

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Joe, Have someone else shoot it and see what result they get. However, that group ain't bad
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Joe, Have someone else shoot it and see what result they get. However, that group ain't bad
I have... and others have had success with the same pistol. Its me.

Grip angle?

Oh well... Like you said, not bad grouping for the short model 30
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Originally Posted by txinvestigator View Post
First you defend adjustable sights, saying nothing about injuries, etc., THEN you get defensive.

LOL seriously, I'm laughing. I'm not being defensive, I'm just trying to figure out this perfect world you live in. I agree with you that "most" poor shooting is due to the shooter, but sometimes it actually is the gun. WHy else would we have adjustable sights?

I have trained those floor shooters you refer to, it can be a hoot. What I am referring to is a guy or gal that after much training and practice is consistently off by 1 or 2 inches. Why not adjust for it? I have seen it where adjustments are made and then further down the road after technique and strength builds the adjustment goes back the other way.

How about we agree to disagree like we have on pretty much every subject so far. You can buy fixed sights and when possible and necesary I'll buy adjustable sights for my target guns.
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Look at the front sight. See the dot? Ignore it.
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Originally Posted by Seabear1500 View Post
LOL seriously, I'm laughing. I'm not being defensive, I'm just trying to figure out this perfect world you live in. I agree with you that "most" poor shooting is due to the shooter, but sometimes it actually is the gun. WHy else would we have adjustable sights?
It's true.

Of the hundreds of shooters I have helped on the range, I can count the number of pistols that actually had improper sight alignment on my right hand.

Adjustable sights are for adjusting for long range shooting between different loads. They are not there to adjust for the shooter's inability.

Shooting a pistol properly is rather difficult, and it takes alot of focus initially. Unfortunately, the majority of people out there want to blame the gun for their problems, and that prohibits their ability to get better. Many of the problems people have, ie. right handed shooters shooting down and left, are problems associated immediately preceeding the firing event. You can't really feel yourself doing it, nor does it seem like you are doing anything wrong. I've been there many a time, but in all fairness ... I WAS doing something wrong. Now that I've corrected alot of my bad habits I can feel when something doesn't break properly.

There are guns out there that are very difficult, if not impossible to shoot tight groups with. Most are heavy DA action carry guns, which combine a heavy pull with a lightweight gun. Even with an Airweight or a LCP I can manage a fist sized group at 7 yards. With a snub-nose Rossi with a 8 lb. SA pull I put 3 in one hole at 7 yards.

I don't think I'm better than you. I've put alot of rounds down range to do that, and there are plenty of people that are better than me. I just don't want you guys to be the next guy blaming the gun.
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