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This will be blasphemy to some but...
The first 1911 I shot made me cringe. Could not stand the way it felt in hand. I have no idea of what brand it was.
I did get to fondle an STI in .40 the other week. Oh my! Very nice.
+1 on being able to shoot a gun well vs actually liking it. I can shoot Glocks well. I just don't like them.
They're not as bad as XDs though. I hate shooting those. The bore is insanely high, the grip safety shouldn't exist, and even if it needs to for some reason, it shouldn't lock the action, and the quality just seems really low to me. Once I got to shot a XD40C, I understood why everybody who owns one of those flinches like mad...
I'm actually sitting here dry firing my P226 in single action, and can't find any creep in the trigger, which is damn good for a factory gun with a bunch of rounds through it.
I have bigger hands, so I like shooting the P226 and the M9 (the M9 has a pretty good trigger). My big complaint with the 92 is that Beretta decided to take the safety/decocker off the frame for some stupid reason, and put it on the slide... upside down.
My p225 has basically the same trigger and its excellent in sa. Double is heavy but predictable.
Creepy was probably a bad adjective. It seemed to have a ton of "take up" which seemed excessive in both Sa and Da modes. It's true that Mic's sig had a light mounted on the front rail that probably accentuated the creepy feeling and made it harder to discern when the gun was gonna go off. The Beretta was bone stock and all 3 of us shot it like shit. That doesn't mean either are bad guns but it does mean that I will never own em'. Hence the title of the thread. Given the chance and time behind the trigger, I'm sure a few other guns will top these on my most hated list.
Any nine is fine if you have an outbreak of mice! ;)
I crack myself up!
Take-up? Yeah, there's some take-up in a Sig trigger when you fire it SA. That doesn't affect accuracy unless there's a ton of it after resetting the trigger, and you want to shoot quickly (can lead to slapping the trigger). The old Sigs had excessive take-up after reset, which is why they developed the short reset trigger. With that factory upgrade (comes installed in new guns), there's pretty much no take-up after you reset the trigger. But for slow fire, even the longer reset "old-style" triggers had no effect on accuracy.
I don't want to be that guy, but... for all its faults (real or perceived), the Beretta 92 is a pretty accurate gun. You might be blaming the wrong part of the equation with that one.
Think most guns are pretty accurate these days, just some are easier for an armature to be accurate with.
I would love to shoot side by side with all the bad-asses on this website. This entire thread was never about how well a person could shoot a particular gun, it was about nines that you don't like. I would be happy to meet at a range and shoot any gun with anyone here using the same ammo at the same distance with the same gun. Then we can start to talk about skills and training. Until then try not to be offended that I don't like the same brand of gun you do. IIRC I am still leading everyone here in the rimfire challenge and some of my usual range pals are already putting together our next series of TGT "topshot" style challenges. Maybe we can standardize them and start posting results, so all the mall ninjas and tough guys here can compete as well.