Houston Chron - BATFE door to door search

[idleprocess]

So long as they're doing this based on some sort of evidence (such as the initial set-up in the article - buying 4 guns in one day) and aren't going on blatant fishing expeditions, I can't really call it a bad thing one way or another. Like it or not, much successful law enforcement is about investigating the unusual...

[DCortez]

Originally Posted by idleprocess

Like it or not, much successful law enforcement is about investigating the unusual...

Funny how the poorer you are, the more unusual you are

[TexasRedneck]

ummmm.......most folks what're gonna buy 4 guns at the same time don't qualify as "poor" in mah book....

An' since when does exercising your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS come with limits on the number of times you can exercise same?!?? Sorry - if I'm in a shop and spot TEN guns I like, and I have the $$$, they'll go home with me, and they can KMA if they don't like it. There's a couple on this board that'll tell you I can go on sprees from time ta time....<G>

[M. Sage]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

An' since when does exercising your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS come with limits on the number of times you can exercise same?!??

New law: You must keep your political views to yourself unless you can express them in 30 words or less. Yeah. I could actually see that.

Though we do need a max word count law on legislation...

[TexasRedneck]

Okay, then, how's this:

"Yes?"

"ATF - we're hear because you bought 10 guns today."

"Yes"

"We'd like to see them."

"No"

How's that?<G>

[DCortez]

Well, we want to see them or we'll come back with a warrant and have the local donut eater pull you over and write you 100 tickets.



I'd still say no and be prepared to be harrassed and bullied.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by DCortez

Well, we want to see them or we'll come back with a warrant and have the local donut eater pull you over and write you 100 tickets.



I'd still say no and be prepared to be harrassed and bullied.

They've made runs at me before....I was polite - but firm. We finally agreed that there wasn't much probable cause - especially after they found that I knew the gun laws as well as they did (an' they weren't that "up" on 'em).

[A_FIVE-O]

Dude, why is everyone so paranoid on this forum? I know gun rights are a big deal for Texans, but if you're not doing anything wrong you shouldn't worry. The media always makes things bigger than what they are. I have met some dumb ass ATF SA's, but most are very professional and know what they are doing. Anyways just my .02 and "keepin' it real"

[idleprocess]

Originally Posted by DCortez

Funny how the poorer you are, the more unusual you are

I believe that buying more than two of the same firearm on a single 4473 form automatically triggers a flag at the ATF. Perhaps the agents are simply following up on this long-standing policy?

Like I said - so long as they're not on a fishing expedition, I don't see a problem with it.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by A_FIVE-O

Dude, why is everyone so paranoid on this forum? I know gun rights are a big deal for Texans, but if you're not doing anything wrong you shouldn't worry. The media always makes things bigger than what they are. I have met some dumb ass ATF SA's, but most are very professional and know what they are doing. Anyways just my .02 and "keepin' it real"

Paranoid? No. But tell me - when's the last time a reporter was questioned for writing more than 2 stories a day? The point is that the act of buing a gun should NOT be the action point of an investigation.