Houston Chron - BATFE door to door search

[jdh]

Originally Posted by TXSUT

Damn, how long ago did this happen to you?

Didn't. Have worked with officers who did those kinds of stops. You know the 1% of the officers who give the other 99% a bad image. The ones that call for back up and have five patrol cars surrounding the suspect vehicle tying up every officer on the shift and leaving the city unprotected for an hour while they search and find nothing.

You know the ones with the attitude like the one you show in your post.

[Texas42]

Originally Posted by shilohshooters

The pastor spoken of in the Chronicle story has recently purchased two Sig 238's (.380, very recently released and trickling out slowly). He was told that his guns are favorites of drug cartels. "Say hello to my lil' friend!" I wonder how, in the 2 or 3 weeks that these have been out, in limited #'s mind you, has the 238 made the 5.7, AK, etc., fall out of favor with said drug lords? Just f****n' stupid. Nothing says bad ass drug lord like the FURY of the .380. I wonder how long its going to be before the pearl handled, mirror finsh with gold accents and intricate carvings edition is going to come out...

I guess you could make the argument that a sig sauer, from Germany is connected by some form of land to china, which manufacturs the AK's and ships them to the drug cartels. . . .

I can see how they could get confused.

[mortdooley]

People who have nothing to hide generally get charged with something. A lawyer once told me that they know who is guilty and who is innocent, a guilty person won't talk and an innocent person won't shut up. So if you get a visit by people wanting you to explain legal purchases demand a warrant, you are not being a bad person you are being a free American acting within your rights.

[TXSUT]

Originally Posted by jdh

You know the ones with the attitude like the one you show in your post.

Huh? My post? What are you talking about?

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by jdh

Didn't. Have worked with officers who did those kinds of stops.
You know the ones with the attitude like the one you show in your post.

Really? What department d'ya work for? Generally speakin', that kinda cop makes a call like that *one* time - period. His peers take care of things from there. THEY don't like those kinda call either - *if* what you say is true.

[M. Sage]

Originally Posted by mortdooley

People who have nothing to hide generally get charged with something. A lawyer once told me that they know who is guilty and who is innocent, a guilty person won't talk and an innocent person won't shut up. So if you get a visit by people wanting you to explain legal purchases demand a warrant, you are not being a bad person you are being a free American acting within your rights.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part... I will say that a lot of cops I know have summed it up thus: a lot of people talk themselves into handcuffs, but nobody they've seen has been able to talk their way out of them.

When dealing with the police, your best bet is to STFU.

[DCortez]

Originally Posted by M. Sage

When dealing with the police, your best bet is to STFU.

+1


Do your talking in court ... and I don't actually mean YOU, I mean your lawyer.

[jdh]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

Really? What department d'ya work for? Generally speakin', that kinda cop makes a call like that *one* time - period. His peers take care of things from there. THEY don't like those kinda call either - *if* what you say is true.

Medium sized town in the panhandle, home town boy, family friends of the chief, always assigned to a single man unit (mainly because no one wanted to work with him), could do no wrong.

[JKTex]

Originally Posted by jdh

That phrase right there is one of the biggest crocks of crap ever uttered. Innocent people are hassled for no good reason every day. Maybe you enjoy spending quantity time with Barney on the side of a crowded highway because you have an NRA sticker on your car and having him paw through your stuff just because of the sticker. Not every one does.
(Remember the Right wing "Terrorist" advisory issued earlier in the year)

And no I am not anti-cop. I've done my time in a patrol car. I am anti abuse of power and the principle of guilty until proven innocent.

Considering your follow up replies to questions about that statement, how much credibility would you think you have left?

[JKTex]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

Really? What department d'ya work for? Generally speakin', that kinda cop makes a call like that *one* time - period. His peers take care of things from there. THEY don't like those kinda call either - *if* what you say is true.

AH but you don't get it, it happens every day, everywhere. You must be one of them thar "sheeple" that won't see the truth or the black suits and dark glasses. It's true 'cause people say they think it does.

Open your eyes man, there out there, everywhere, and there after us!
We need to find a good foil hat, scary story telling smiley!