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    Do Elementary School Students still say the Pledge of Allegiance?

    I was wondering this yesterday. Do kids in Elementary Schools still say the Pledge of Allegiance?
    I only ask because with every foreign guru claiming the right to express themselves it seems uncertain.

    One can only hope that they still learn pride in their country early.
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    My 4 kids, in public schools, say the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag and the salute to the Texas state flag every morning.

    Honor the Texas flag;
    I pledge allegiance to thee,
    Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.

    Like the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag "under God" was added after the first draft but much later, 2007.

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    GOVERNMENT CODE.
    TITLE 11. STATE SYMBOLS AND HONORS; PRESERVATION.
    SUBCHAPTER C. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO STATE FLAG.
    CHAPTER 3100. STATE FLAG
    Sec. 3100.101. PLEDGE. The pledge of allegiance to the state flag is: "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 7.001, eff. Sept. 1, 2001
    Amended by: Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 650, 1, eff. June 15, 2007.
    Sec. 3100.102. OCCASIONS AT WHICH PLEDGE MAY BE RECITED.
    The pledge of allegiance to the state flag may be recited at any:
    (1) public or private meeting at which the pledge of allegiance to the United States flag is recited; and
    (2) state historical event or celebration.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 7.001, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
    Sec. 3100.103. ORDER OF RECITATION.
    The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States should be recited before the pledge of allegiance to the state flag if both are recited.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 7.001, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
    Sec. 3100.104. RECITING PLEDGE.
    If the pledge to the state flag is recited, each person who is present and:
    (1) not in uniform should: (A) face the state flag and stand at attention with the person's right hand over the heart; (B) if wearing a head covering that is easy to remove, remove that head covering with the right hand and hold it at the person's left shoulder, with the person's hand over the heart; and (C) recite the pledge; or
    (2) in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and make the military salute.
    Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 7.001, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matefrio View Post

    Like the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag "under God" was added after the first draft but much later, 2007.
    Right. The phrase "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobarker View Post
    I was wondering this yesterday. Do kids in Elementary Schools still say the Pledge of Allegiance?
    I only ask because with every foreign guru claiming the right to express themselves it seems uncertain.

    One can only hope that they still learn pride in their country early.
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    It seems that our values in God, country and allegiance are all under attack by the P.C. crowd. They don't want to offend anyone but they DO just that. They offend Americans who grew up believing in this country and what it, and its flag, stand for. I think the old Superman television series had it right....."Truth, Justice and the American Way." But then, I'm an old fart who grew up with Superman, Ozzie and Harriet, Dobie Gillis and all those other "sappy" U.S. programs.
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    Pride in one's country doesn't come from saying the pledge of allegience. A person needs a patriotic role model to look up to, I think. Otherwise "the pledge" is just some words that the grown ups make you say before class.
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    True that one needs a model and the pledge is just words. But, it does reinforce the belief, once a role model does illustrate the actual acts of patriotism and the meaning behind the pledge.
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    I always wonder how or better yet, why, one would pledge their allegience to the U.S. flag and then to the Texas flag? That has never made sense to me. If Texas and the U.S.A. dont agree on things or if as some of our friends on here hope, Texas ever seceded.....which flag does your allegience go to? Since the first day we started with this Texas pledge deal, I still haven't come to grips with the mentality of promising your allegience to two flags.
    Someone enlighten me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texascop2 View Post
    I always wonder how or better yet, why, one would pledge their allegience to the U.S. flag and then to the Texas flag? That has never made sense to me. If Texas and the U.S.A. dont agree on things or if as some of our friends on here hope, Texas ever seceded.....which flag does your allegience go to? Since the first day we started with this Texas pledge deal, I still haven't come to grips with the mentality of promising your allegience to two flags.
    Someone enlighten me.
    Maybe a way to further devalue and minimize the importance of commitment and staying true to your values?

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    The US and Texas flag pledges are still recited in all Texas public schools followed by a minute of silence. Students are asked to recite and stand but they cannot be forced to IAW federal law.

    It is common to see students and staff offer silent prayers during the moment of silence. Most just go about their business getting ready for the school day.

    I personally do not have a problem with the pledges, but I cannot help but wonder why folks will sanctimoniously slam those who want to remove the reference to God because they are offended, claim they are equally offended when it is even mentioned? Seems that one group is offended because the other group is offended...maybe both pledges should be returned to their secular origins...THAT is the American Way...

    I am going to rant on another point that was brought up here...if there somehow comes a dark day when some idiots TRY to force the succession of the Great State of Texas from the United States of America, they will have a very short war on their hands...there are FAR more real American patriots who are also Texans who are more than willing to take up arms and go to war to defend the unity of the United States and the Constitution that binds these states to a common cause. I once swore to protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic...and I am still bound by that oath. [end rant]

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    To the original post, my kids say the pledge of allegiance. They don't say the Texas one. I just asked my daughter.
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    i dont care who makes a pledge to either flag...just curious how anyone can pledge to both.

    Skinman, this is just a hypothetical, but if there was a referendum and the vast majority of Texans wanted to secede you would fight and kill your fellow Americans to keep them in a system of government that they no longer wish to participate in?

    I am not saying I support seceding, I dont. But I cant help but do what modern politicians hate for us to do, look at what the founders said....

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    It seems our government wants to deny citizens the very right that the the birth of this nation was based on....
    Again, I am not a seccesionist, just making an observation of yet another double standard Washington imposes on us.
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