CC vs Open carry

[Axxe55]

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Sometimes around here. . . . .

arrogance rules. . . .

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most doctors seem to have a monopoly on arrogance!

 

[Tnhawk]

most doctors seem to have a monopoly on arrogance!

Most lawyers acquired the same characteristic.

 

[A1Oni]

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A “Voice of Experience”

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Opinionated “armchair theorist”

”There is a time and place for everything. . . . . “

I wouldn't call massad ayoob an armchair theorist.

Who is Massad Ayoob? - Massad Ayoob Group

Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms...

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[leVieux]

I wouldn't call massad ayoob an armchair theorist.

Who is Massad Ayoob? - Massad Ayoob Group

Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms...

massadayoobgroup.com

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Tell us, will Ayoob be there with you ?

“There is a time and place for everything. . . . . “

leVieux

 

[leVieux]

most doctors seem to have a monopoly on arrogance!

OK, you get a pass for a while, b/c of your recent neurological “problem”.

I can always “block” you again. . . . . . .

leVieux

 

[A1Oni]

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Tell us, will Ayoob be there with you ?

“There is a time and place for everything. . . . . “

leVieux

his teachings will, as will be my firearm, making oneself a target is silly, its ones right to open carry but that doesnt mean its smart.

 

[leVieux]

his teachings will, as will be my firearm, making oneself a target is silly, its ones right to open carry but that doesnt mean its smart.

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This is not an “either/or” issue, nor it is it an “all or nothing” issue.

Times & circumstances vary. It is unwise to be so rigid.

Besides, the rare times I “OC”, I always have another concealed on my person.

It is fine to have & to express an opinion; but we shouldn’t be so rigid about it.

leVieux
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[zackmars]

I wouldn't call massad ayoob an armchair theorist.

Who is Massad Ayoob? - Massad Ayoob Group

Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms...

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That's exactly what Ayoob is though.

 

[A1Oni]

That's exactly what Ayoob is though.

clearly you lack reading comprehension or never been to a shooting class.

 

[PDiddy]

In many places all of the good cops have been run off by defund movements and DA’s that refuse to charge. This was by design in order to get a force willing to do anything they were told when the time comes. These aren’t good humans much less police, they are simply brown shirts in another costume. I feel for people that live in those places when things start to happen.

 

[Rhino]

his teachings will, as will be my firearm, making oneself a target is silly, its ones right to open carry but that doesnt mean its smart.

I've been carrying for 20 years now. I've been walking through Oak Cliff in Dallas for the better part of the last six years, I do train, and I keep up with what I can and help with my church's security team.

Last night I walked six miles with a 9mm on my hip in the "bad" part of OC, which really is more perception than reality in my experience. I heard three sets of full auto gunfire - probably somebody with a modded Glock and likely the same source - and at least two other sets of semi-auto fire. Most of that seems to be people mag dumping in their backyard, but who knows?

I know a fairly good number of the homeless guys, or at least that's what they appear to be. Some of them address me by name, and I try to be friendly to them and help when I can. I'm not patrolling, I just like to get my exercise. When I'm walking, I keep an eye out for stuff, I don't let people get really close into my personal space unless I'm mentally ready, but no-one has ever assaulted me, been seriously disrespectful, or really even asked me questions about my weapon. Maybe my day will come, but I'm prepared for a feral dog attack, or a crazy hostile drug addict attack. I'm not going to be fumbling to get the thing out of my pocket if that happens.

 

[A1Oni]

I've been carrying for 20 years now. I've been walking through Oak Cliff in Dallas for the better part of the last six years, I do train, and I keep up with what I can and help with my church's security team.

Last night I walked six miles with a 9mm on my hip in the "bad" part of OC, which really is more perception than reality in my experience. I heard three sets of full auto gunfire - probably somebody with a modded Glock and likely the same source - and at least two other sets of semi-auto fire. Most of that seems to be people mag dumping in their backyard, but who knows?

I know a fairly good number of the homeless guys, or at least that's what they appear to be. Some of them address me by name, and I try to be friendly to them and help when I can. I'm not patrolling, I just like to get my exercise. When I'm walking, I keep an eye out for stuff, I don't let people get really close into my personal space unless I'm mentally ready, but no-one has ever assaulted me, been seriously disrespectful, or really even asked me questions about my weapon. Maybe my day will come, but I'm prepared for a feral dog attack, or a crazy hostile drug addict attack. I'm not going to be fumbling to get the thing out of my pocket if that happens.

if you fumble a draw from concealment, its an issue of skill.

 

[zackmars]

clearly you lack reading comprehension or never been to a shooting class.

I've been to a few.

What real experience does Ayoob have to draw on? Grantham NH wasn't exactly a dangerous place to be, even for a part time cop.

That time he got in a bad car wreck and got saved by his second chance vest is as close as he's ever gotten to a real gunfight.

 

[Rhino]

if you fumble a draw from concealment, its an issue of skill.

You lack experience. It's hard to pull a weapon from your pockets when you are trying to move. It's harder to pull from your waistband than you think, too, when you are trying to evade a dog. I've run multiple scenarios and come to the conclusion that skill is not an end-all. A holster is MUCH much easier to work with. Set yourself up for success.

Keep telling yourself all that, though. I don't care.

 

[A1Oni]

You lack experience. It's hard to pull a weapon from your pockets when you are trying to move. It's harder to pull from your waistband than you think, too, when you are trying to evade a dog. I've run multiple scenarios and come to the conclusion that skill is not an end-all. A holster is MUCH much easier to work with. Set yourself up for success.

Keep telling yourself all that, though. I don't care.

you keep saying I lack experience when I have contingencies for all such issues that come with conceal carrying. a good holster goes a long way.

 

[Rhino]

you keep saying I lack experience when I have contingencies for all such issues that come with conceal carrying. a good holster goes a long way.

Do you go for walks? When was the last time you walked 3 miles straight?

Also, that actually looks like an inferior holster. My preferred IWB holster is a lot better than that.

 

[Cool 'Horn Luke]

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Sometimes around here. . . . .

arrogance rules. . . .

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Don't forget bullying and condescension!

 

[easy rider]

I guess there should be a law against open carry, after all, it's for our own good right?

 

[sb47]

his teachings will, as will be my firearm, making oneself a target is silly, its ones right to open carry but that doesnt mean its smart.

 

[Axxe55]

OK, you get a pass for a while, b/c of your recent neurological “problem”.

I can always “block” you again. . . . . . .

leVieux

youre why people have so little confidence in doctors you arrogant conceited bastageoh the threat of being blocked by you just scares me to death