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    Quote Originally Posted by txinvestigator View Post
    Your quote got messed up, but I can help you. First, here is the actual text from the bill in regards to 46.15(b)



    What that section does is make carry lawful for ANYONE who would qualify for a license to carry without a license. Non-applicability does not mean that you have to Prove you meet the non-applicability. I suppose it would mean that if LEO had reason to contact you that they could run a criminal history and if you had a disqualifying record they could arrest you.

    Well, lets look at that. When you read the text of a bill, any text that is not underlined or struck out IS ALREADY IN THE LAW AND NOT BEING CHANGED. Since this forum will not allow the use of strikethrough text, it converts strikethrough to bracketed text; therefore, in the bold section below the text bracketed [like this] is actually struck out.

    SECTION 7. Sections 411.201(c), (e), and (h), Government
    Code, are amended to read as follows:
    (c) An active judicial officer is eligible for a license to
    carry a handgun under [the authority of] this subchapter. A retired
    judicial officer is eligible for a license to carry a handgun under
    [the authority of] this subchapter if the officer:


    All that section of the bill does is change wording. It actually says that an Active or retired Judicial Officer Officer is eligible for an LTC if they meet certain requirements. Where do you see that it makes them not need an LTC, in that section?



    That is NO CHANGE from the current law. The part you see underlined is the only part added. They added that so once the bill passes, and non-licensed people can carry, the right of an employer to restrict handgun carry by employees will extend to those who are carrying without a license.
    Exactly the same as it is now. Again, text that is not underscored or struck through IS IN THE CURRENT LAW. All this section does is require non-licensees to display ID if carrying, if the bill passes.
    already in the current laws. Extends this to non-licensees carrying if the bill passes.
    Already law. This part of the bill extends this law to those who might carry if the bill were to pass. Starting to see a pattern here?
    This is ALREADY LAW, this section of the bill adds that protection to people who might carry without a license if the bill passes
    Pay attention to the underscores (adds new text) and the strickthroughs (deletes current text). This is already law and simply adds unlicensed carry to the current law.
    Already in the law, this bill deletes sections and adds section to accommodate unlicensed carry.
    Where do you see anything about wardens and dove hunting in section 33 of the bill?


    Dude, this bill is ABOUT this very thing. That is the reason the bill exists. In fact, if you read the FIRST SENTENCE OF THE BILL, "A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

    AN ACT
    relating to granting authority to carry a firearm to an unlicensed
    person


    Peace officers can disarm you NOW, today. That law already exists. Again, with what you have learned now about the structure of bills in regards to strikethroughs, underscores and normal text, you can see that only some of that is new and some has been removed in the bill.


    Now that you have learned how to read bills properly, you know that there is nothing rash about statements that this bill allows unlicensed carry, if passed.

    Thanks, and have a great day!
    This post really helped me understand, since I had my hopes the the 375 basket. Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDan View Post
    Why are they so thin skinned and spiteful?
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    Update from Stickland
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    HB 375 Constitutional Carry Update/ACTION ALERT:
    Five of the nine members of the Homeland Security Committee have publicly stated that they would vote yes on HB 375 (which is currently the strongest written 2nd amendment bill in the legislature) if given the chance. That is enough to pass the bill.


    It can only be brought up for a vote by one person, Chairman Phil King, who so far has been unwilling to do so. One of the reasons he stated he hasn't is because our Attorney General, Ken Paxton, has issues with its current form. He shouldn't if he truly supports constitutional carry. If this is not true then he should clarify he is not opposing our bill publicly.



    If you care about this issue we need you to act immediately. Time runs out next week. Please respectfully call the following:


    Chairman Phil King (512) 463-0738
    "Please bring HB 375 up for a vote in committee before Tuesday, April 25th"



    We need you to make the calls immediately. #onward

    Last edited by Brian Boru; 04-21-2017 at 07:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Boru View Post
    Update from Stickland
    I told y'all king is a punk. He's an embarrassment to my district.


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    Call made (with all due respect) to Representative Phil King's office.
    Thanks for posting that Brian!
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    Phil King is the John Cornyn of the Texas Legislature. Biggest RINO in the state. Only because Cornyn is only ever in state to glad hand old people at the homes who should know better. He is their King, Phil King that is.

    The reason why we the people want term limits.

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    So the Committee Substitute for HB1911 was released today.

    looks like a gunbuster bars unlicensed carry, and carry past that is a class C
    belt or shoulder holster changed to just "holster"
    30.06/07 mainly unchanged.
    Last edited by locke_n_load; 04-23-2017 at 10:42 AM.
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    Could always just post a link...


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    Quote Originally Posted by busykngt View Post
    Could always just post a link...


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    It's a folder in a closed group on facebook, doubt that would help. But I messed up reading last night - bill does not add exemptions for ltc/authorized from 03 or 035.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locke_n_load View Post
    So the Committee Substitute for HB1911 was released today.

    looks like a gunbuster bars unlicensed carry, and carry past that is a class C
    belt or shoulder holster changed to just "holster"
    30.06/07 mainly unchanged.
    Trying to follow this topic and research but some of this legal terminology and wording is confusing me. Could you break it down a bit so I understand more clearly?

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