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    30.06, 30.07 for open area, unrestricted access?

    A new sign went up at an oil field entry off of a state Road.
    No gates, no fences. Multiple other entry roads unmarked.

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    https://goo.gl/maps/EX9tvKAo11s

    (Hundreds of acres of oilfield, for those who have trouble with the map link)

    A few fenced facilities are in the pasture, but are far apart.
    Also, 3 separate companies operate facilities accessible from this entry point.

    If you are working for one of these companies, you sign a service agreement that clearly prohibits firearms on site. But Joe Blow public license holders? How can this possibly be enforced?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero View Post
    A new sign went up at an oil field entry off of a state Road.
    No gates, no fences. Multiple other entry roads unmarked.

    Dropped Pin

    https://goo.gl/maps/EX9tvKAo11s

    (Hundreds of acres of oilfield, for those who have trouble with the map link)

    A few fenced facilities are in the pasture, but are far apart.
    Also, 3 separate companies operate facilities accessible from this entry point.

    If you are working for one of these companies, you sign a service agreement that clearly prohibits firearms on site. But Joe Blow public license holders? How can this possibly be enforced?
    maybe standard tresspassing laws? Im assuming once you turn off of the county road, everything else is private. May have also been an insurance deal forcing them to post the sign (stupid, but no one ever claimed insurance company are smart). Ours at our plant made them post the signs all over the place even though anyone entering the plant had to have a signed contract stating no weapons! They did, however, not post the entrance to the employee parking lot because more than half the employees (including the plant manager and regional manager) threatened to start parking along the road rather than on plant property lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero View Post
    How can this possibly be enforced?
    Shoot the sign.. If someone comes, then there you go.

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    My understanding is that the properties are leased. Would the lease holder have the ability to over ride the property owner for a case like this?

    I could see employees for a particular company being on the hook and possibly terminated for violating a policy, but I'm skeptical of the legal enforcement ability.

    I don't think 30.06 is required at every entrance, could be wrong.
    I wanna shoot farther

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    Quote Originally Posted by Younggun View Post
    My understanding is that the properties are leased. Would the lease holder have the ability to over ride the property owner for a case like this?

    I could see employees for a particular company being on the hook and possibly terminated for violating a policy, but I'm skeptical of the legal enforcement ability.

    I don't think 30.06 is required at every entrance, could be wrong.
    30.06 isnt required at every entrance, 30.07 is.

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    Sounds like a litigation nightmare.

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    Carry a rifle.

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    I go on that lease a couple times a week, and usually hide it in my vehicle or keep concealed depending on what I'm doing while there. The way I see it is they'll never know unless I need it, and then their sign locations will be the least of my concerns.

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    Yes, your boss/company can restrict you from carrying at work. They have even had the ability to tell a CHL holder that they canít have their handgun in their car in the company parking lot if: (F) property owned or leased by a chemical manufacturer or oil and gas refiner with an air authorization under Chapter 382, Health and Safety Code, and on which the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or transportation of hazardous, combustible, or explosive materials, (unless they provide a secure monitored parking area). You can thank your legislature for that one.

    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u....52.htm#52.061

    ps It pisses me off too.

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    30.06 can't apply to open areas anyways right?

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