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  • BurkGlocker

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    This pisses me off to no extent. People getting busted for something as little as marijuana. No, I do not condone the use of pot, and have not used it since my teenage years, and the only reason that I dont use is because it is illegal and dirty UA's keep you from being hired for a job and even losing one. I hate alcohol, and I hate what it does to people and families, but have known many families that all of them use, the parents, the kids, hell even the grandkids of a certain age, and most of them are successful and normal everyday people. But busting people for something that grows natural and uncontrollably almost everywhere in this state, is BS. The only reason marijuana is illegal is because the government cannot control its growth, use or distrubution and therefore, cannot tax the shit out of it. When is Texas going to wake up about this issue?
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    cuate

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    Pot

    I don't use it, my relaxation is a Rum & Coca Cola, or a beer but the history as I read it is:

    Around 1935 some person with not much to do discovered that Indians and Hispanics had been puffing it for maybe a 1000 years to lay back and relax. They then decided it was the root of all evil and propagandized the so called evils of THC use, passed Federal and on down to state laws.
    In the 60s the Hippy crowd got into cannibis because it was risque, and it was a way to flaunt the law in the Fed's and States faces. Later others tried it, some liked it, some did not.

    Scientists claim that it is not psycologically addictive, It is doubtful it is physically addictive but its against the law, no responsible parent wants their children using it. It does not always lead to hard drugs but has in some instances. California and one other state ignore Federal law and sell it all over with a prescription. It's legalization would do great damage to the murderous Mexican drug cartels...Rum is legal, pot isn't, I'll stick to my mixed drinks, and not operate motor vehicles....
     

    DCortez

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    It's legalization would do great damage to the murderous Mexican drug cartels...Rum is legal


    It would end a lot of problems on a lot of levels. How many more problems would it create? Dunno. I do know what illegal rum did to our country and how we handle the legal liquid now.


    I'm not much into telling people how to live or being taxed to fix their lives.
     

    Libertarian_Longhorn

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    It would end a lot of problems on a lot of levels. How many more problems would it create? Dunno. I do know what illegal rum did to our country and how we handle the legal liquid now.


    I'm not much into telling people how to live or being taxed to fix their lives.


    Closet libertarian Dcortez? I like it.
     

    Texas42

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    If pot was legalized, the drug cartels would still exist.

    I think the whole, "the government could make so much in taxes" argument is stupid. Government needs to learn to work with less money.

    I think you are stupid for taking psychoactive drugs. Call me crazy. I don't doubt there are some good physiologic benefits that could be taken from these drugs, but I think a perscription is in order.
     

    Libertarian_Longhorn

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    If pot was legalized, the drug cartels would still exist.

    I think the whole, "the government could make so much in taxes" argument is stupid. Government needs to learn to work with less money.

    I think you are stupid for taking psychoactive drugs. Call me crazy. I don't doubt there are some good physiologic benefits that could be taken from these drugs, but I think a perscription is in order.

    Caffiene is a psychoactive drug.
     

    cuate

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    If pot was legalized, the drug cartels would still exist.

    I think the whole, "the government could make so much in taxes" argument is stupid. Government needs to learn to work with less money.

    I think you are stupid for taking psychoactive drugs. Call me crazy. I don't doubt there are some good physiologic benefits that could be taken from these drugs, but I think a perscription is in order.

    The best drug I have found is the off knob on the TV, same on the Radio and just read the sports page in the papers....Well, Texas Guns is a wonderful media, can't escape the obamination completely but makes him smell a little less like the pile out at the barn,,,, Yeah, Texas Guns is good for the bod & mind !!!!
     

    hoytinak

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    I think constructing a good argument for legalization would have to include an investigation into the original reason for its criminalization.

    [url]http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/[/URL]

    Just one article of many.

    It will be difficult to follow a good if a person carries a general disdain for potheads, though, so it would be important to note that, likely, many people around you smoke, and aren't perceived as potheads. I can think of 5 people just off the top of my head that smoke.

    They hold jobs, have relationships, and contribute to society and aren't your stereotypical pothead.

    The only difference between them and me is that they get high on the weekends.

    It's my position that marijuana remains illegal simply because enought people don't have enough information about it. In order to inform people, we could get socratic on their asses:

    Why is marijuana illegal?

    "It's a gateway drug!"
    No, it's not.
    [url]http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/study-say-marijuana-no-gateway-drug-12116.html[/URL] (one of many)

    So if weed isn't a gateway drug, then why is it illegal?

    "It's dangerous!"
    No known lethal dose.

    So, since weed isn't dangerous, certainly no more dangerous than the drugs which are available on the market today, and it's not a gateway drug, then why should people not be able to use it?

    "It makes you stupid."
    Not really.
    [url]http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2140-marijuana-does-not-dent-iq-permanently.html[/URL]

    If marijuana isn't dangerous, it has no demonstrable long-term effects on your brain, and won't lead you to start smoking crack, then what makes it more harmful than, say, alcohol or cigarettes?

    "It alters your mood."
    Yeah, into a complacent, pacified (albeit paranoid) couch potato who enjoys simple things and/or is capable of experiencing different states of mind. Is that a bad thing?

    Compare weed with salvia divinorum. Why isn't Salvia illegal?

    Hemp is easy to grow, will grow just about anywhere, and has a myriad of uses. Why should it be so strictly criminalized?

    Lets not forget medical marijuana.

    The argument is the absurdity of the law itself.
    It's like banning peanuts.
     

    Texas42

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    comparing Marajuana to peanuts is silly.

    I can think of three old "friends" of mine who became potheads. Their life went down the toilet. Haven't heard from them in years.

    I'm sure they had other contributing conditions as well. I'm sure I have several of my other friends smoke, and are perfectly adjusted members of society.

    The question is where do you draw the line?

    Morphine, Cocaine, Acetomenophen, salicylicates, ect can all have some beneficial properties in the right situations. They also have risks. They can contribute to your death.

    If you believe that there shouldn't be any regulations, we'll simply have to disagree.
     

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    For some people, pot does comsume them, jsut as does alcohol, cocaine, meth, and even cigarettes. If you cannot control your use, then it becomes a problem.

    The only reason pot, poppies and other natural growing plants that induce euphorias are illegal are because the government cannot control, and therefore, cannot tax it. Tobbaco, alcohol, and pharmaceuticals are all controled and taxed by the government, and even other products, such as paraphenalia, i.e. rolling papers, are also taxed, due to 'luxury' taxes.

    I cannot lie and say that I havent smoked pot, and my wife can attest to this, she would rather me smoke a joint than drink beer, she just doesnt like the smell and illegality of it. And since having children, I havent been a user, but if my child was to ask me about it, I know what to tell them, because yes, I have been there. Even when I was smoking I was a productive memeber of society, but I didnt let it control me. just like an alcoholic, if they let it control them, then its on them, not everyone else.

    Personally, I believe alcohol should be illegal, but we all know what happens when the government takes that away from the public. But if we were to legalize the use of marijuana, there would be a helluva lot less people crwding our jails and prisons, and most of the people tkaing up space in prisons are for non-violent crimes, and mostly first time offenders. I jsut think its bullshit that marijuana is criminalized, even though it grows wildly everywhere.

    Its just goes to show that if the government cant control it, then it must be bad. theyre jsut pissed because theyre not getting their slice of the pie.

    As for the regulation of pot, yes, I do agree, it should only be comsumed by people of age, i.e. 18 and older. My father smoked pot for years, to help ease his pain, and it helped him not have to take as much of the pain meds that ate up his stomach and liver. After 10 back surgeries, you try and find anything that'll help ease the pain, and if he wants to smoke a joint a day and take 1/4 of his pain meds, more power to him.

    There are alot of benificial uses of marijuana, but since its not controled, the government has deemed it unsafe and unjust for use. And if you see, all of the studies that have been performed that image pot as harmful have all been done by government funded institutions. Yes, smoking it causes cancer, but so do cigarettes, but theyre legal.

    the only thing i remember about pot is happy, hungry, horny and sleepy.
    And please, if theres anything wrong with any of those, then I dont what to tell you.

    Rock on!

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    I have seen first hand the destructive effects of pot. Anyone who buys the arguments that it is harmless, blah, blah, blah, either a) just wants to smoke without fear, b) seriously ill informed.
     

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    The question is where do you draw the line?


    I don't. Use the existing alcohol laws to manage drugs. I have no fear of drugs just like I don't have a fear guns. The only difference is I use guns



    It sickens me to see so many people in prison, LE tied up in the insane War on Drugs, the senseless violence, and all the tax money being thrown at this.

    Now that I think about it, taxes piss me off more than anything. I want to keep my money and enhance my own life.
     

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    I have seen first hand the destructive effects of pot. Anyone who buys the arguments that it is harmless, blah, blah, blah, either a) just wants to smoke without fear, b) seriously ill informed.


    Just as I have seen first hand the destructive effects of alcohol. Pot is not harmless, it has the same tar count as cigarrettes. The phschoactive effects? Look no more to the crazy ass soccer mom driving her 3500 pound missile all barred out on xanax. Now that's destruction. If alcohol is legal, pot should be legal. End of story.
     

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    good thread

    i don't smoke anymore, since i have to keep a decent job, and my freedom has become very important to me (i.e. not being in jail)
    but i sure don't think the laws regarding weed are even close to being reasonable.
     

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    I believe pot should be legal.

    I've seen what it can do to people that allow it to control them. Frankly, you aren't going to save these people by making it illegal ... oh wait, it already is.

    Legalization would hamper the drug trade by removing scarcity. It could easily be controlled by government in a sales situation as they already readily control tobacco and other products. Most people on the market don't choose to grow their own marijuana, mainly because people are lazy. They just want to pay and consume. The random hobby pot grower should be free to make his own for private consumption.

    I don't care to smoke pot, but I see little reason to continue down a broken path.

    Sure it can destroy lives, anything can if you let it control you. I'm tired of giving up my personal freedoms because the nannies want to pad the walls for the weak.
     

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    When i was younger i smoked, but after i had kids i gave it up. I also don't see much difference in the prohibition of alcohol and the illegality of marijuana.
     

    Texas42

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    I guess if I really take a look at it, I think the immorality of smoking a little pot pales in comparison to the immoralilty of buying it.
     

    DCortez

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    I guess if I really take a look at it, I think the immorality of smoking a little pot pales in comparison to the immoralilty of buying it.


    Don't get me wrong, if it was legal to beat the $hit out of my kids for having it, I would if I caught them with pot, beer, or whatever.;)
     

    cuate

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    We humans.....I remember the sugar & cocao make believe snuff, puffing on cedar bark or a hard to puff on grapevine.....Gee, it was so grownup....I even remember smoking a good Cuban cigar.......memories, memories.....getting old !
     
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