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  • Hawghauler

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    I would think anything that sprang from the loins of those parents would be at risk to all swine related ailments.
     

    Greg_TX

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    Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

    What a weak-assed excuse. Does the White House really expect us to believe the kids couldn't get the shots if the Obamas wanted them to have it?
     

    Big country

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    When a politician spends their time sitting on a fence, they are a bigger target.
    Yep.

    As far as the Obama kids not getting the shots well........ that just makes me trust the governments very capable research even more. I'm still not getting the mist or the shot for either or I think I've had the flu one time in my 23 years on this planet and I think I got the flu shot one time at around age 8-10.
     
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    I took a class my freshman year of college all about the Spanish Flu (the Flu of 1918) and learned quite a bit about it. My teacher mentioned that researchers had found tissue samples from two soldiers who died of the 1918 flu and had been pulling out genetic material. It was at that point unknown if they managed to pull out enough genetic code to know its entire genetic makeup. She warned us that "another flu like this may be coming, and it may not be an accident".
    This "swine flu" is VERY similar to the 1918 flu in its symptoms, most affected age groups, and causes of death (secondary infections and/or those with the strongest immune systems). I talk a little bit about this in my blog if you care to check it out.

    I think the entire H1N1 vaccination push is overblown. This website outlines the odds of you contracting and dying from swine flu. Makes me wonder if perhaps there's something other than a money-making scheme for the pharmaceutical companies at stake here...perhaps something IN the vaccines?
    Yeah, sometimes I get nutty conspiracy theorist-y, but keep in mind that some crazy conspiracies are actually out there. Just thinking of reasons that perhaps the family of a person in power might not want to get vaccinated...

    Also, if there IS anything wrong with the vaccinations or if my conspiracy theory is true, we are vaccinating people that are KEY in the event of a crisis. First responders (EMTs, firefighters, police), medical workers, people in political office (that choose to get it, of course).

    If you haven't guessed, I'm not getting vaccinated.

    That's my two cents, I'm done now. ;)
     

    Texas42

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    The H1N1 is a "new" shift of strains. It doesn't seem to be as vurulent as the apocalypticists thought. It just means that most of the people are immunilogically naive (basically means that their immune system doesn't recognize it). Most "normal" seasonal flu, most people have some built up immunity from previous strain exposure. Therefore they don't get sick every year, just every few years. Some people rarely ever get it, others get it all the time. That is more to do with their immune system.

    Thousand of Americans die of the "seasonal" flue every year. It isn't because they got some killer disease. They were usually already sick and the flu tipped them over the edge. More people will probably die this year because of flu because more people will get sick of the flu because the population is more suseptable. And lets face it, there are over 300 million Americans.

    Vaccines are good things. They are cheap and very safe (today). They work. The seasonal flue reduces flu MORTALITY (not rate of sickness) by 50-80% (I really hate those kinds of numbers, but the take home message is that they help people live longer.)

    I am usually suspicous of government driven vaccines, but the reality is that the FDA and pharmasuticals can pump out flu vaccines very quickly. Health care professionals get first dibs because we really don't like being thought of as "Typhoid Mary."

    As to your chances of dieing from ANY disease is very small. The actual reduction of risk of most medications in very good drugs is a percent or two. (think statin drugs that we all love and take). The relative risk reduction is closer to 40-60%. (notice they are only allowed to publish the actual risk reduction in Canada)

    Anyway, I'm rambling. I doubt very much that this is some profit or conspiracy driven ordeal.

    PS-sorry for all the misspellings.
     

    TxEMTP69

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    You gotta die from something ... My preference is to let my immune system do it's job. Come hell, high water, or a whole case of toilet paper.
    add some immodium to that list. I have a higher exposure risk just because my job, my wife being pregnant this year I decided to get the flu shot.
     

    Big country

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    There is a guy that works for the same company I do that got the flu shot for the seasonal flu (I think) and he had the flu like a week later. H1N1 to if I remember correctly.
     
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