Man faces jail time for defending family

[2Shots1Wound]

It's official, all governments want their citizens to die horrible, humiliating deaths at the hands of common pond scum..

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How dare him hit the guy so hard it gave him brain damage! I mean how is this guy gonna do math problems and stuff? Didn't he know as he was FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE to use a little less power when DEFENDING HIS OWN LIFE??

Our twisted world ----->

 

[DCortez]

Guns > cricket bat

 

[hk boy]

what the "victim" did is couragous
what he did wrong was beat the thugs up in the street.
had the beating occured in his house--he would have been saved by the castle doctrine....that is if they have that in England

 

[thorkyl]

Salem, who has 50 past convictions, was given a two-year supervision order in September this year. He is now in custody awaiting trial for an alleged credit card fraud.

50 past convictions?
two-year supervision order = 2 years probation
I guess the brits love there crooks
Too bad he didn't hit him harder.

 

[TXCleaver]

From this brief snippet, I think it's safe to say that his actions (however logical and understandable) exceeded most American self-defense doctrines as well. I'd like to think that he wouldn't have been prosecuted so vigorously in Texas though.

 

[codygjohnson]

Guns > cricket bat

I read somewhere that it was an armor piercing cricket bat.

 

[Starker]

I read somewhere that it was an armor piercing cricket bat.

...a BLACK armor piercing ASSAULT cricket bat.

 

[Dawico]

England is all screwed up. People get prosecuted for defending themselves. It is totally backwards.

The men should not have attacked the assailant in the street after the fact though. That is not defense, that is revenge. Getting caught taking revenge was their biggest mistake!

 

[308nato]

When he gets out of the hospital the judge will let him sue the man
that beat him.

 

[Texas1911]

he would have been saved by the castle doctrine....that is if they have that in England

Nope, even if they are in your house you cannot assault them. They have stipulations as to what part of the house they can be in, threat of life / violence, etc.

It's a fucked up system.

 

[TrailDust]

It's official, all governments want their citizens to die horrible, humiliating deaths at the hands of common pond scum..

Welcome to the British method of dealing with crime. A glimpse of our future in most of America I'm sad to say.

 

[Big country]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe this guy had 50! previous charges. He deserved a good pummeling with a EBAPCB (evil black armor piercing cricket bat) but it was a revenge beating and the guys doing the beating should have been given a fine and maybe a week - 1 month in the slammer. But that is it, his sentance was a bit on the harsh side.

 

[SC-Texas]

Its in England . . . WTF did you expect?

 

[SC-Texas]

Here is the text:

Jail for ‘courageous’ Munir Hussain who beat intruder with cricket bat

A businessman who fought off knife-wielding thugs after his family were threatened has been jailed for 30 months.

The case prompted renewed debate over the level of force that house-holders can use against raiders.

Munir Hussain, chairman of the Asian Business Council, was praised by a judge for his “courage” More.. in defending his wife and three children from an attack — but then jailed for the violence of his response. One of his attackers was spared a jail sentence.

The incident occurred when the Hussain family returned from their mosque during Ramadan to find three intruders wearing balaclavas in their home. Hussain was told that he would be killed. His family’s hands were tied behind their backs and they were forced to crawl from room to room.Hussain, 53, made an escape after throwing a coffee table and enlisted his brother Tokeer, 35, in chasing the offenders down the street in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, bringing one of them to the ground.

What followed was described in Reading Crown Court as self-defence that went too far. Walid Salem, one of the intruders, suffered a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces. Neighbours saw several men beating Salem with weapons, including a metal pole.

Munir Hussain is said to feel that he let down his wife, Shaheen Begum, sons Awais, 21, Samad, 15, and 18-year-old daughter Arooj, by failing to defend them against Salem and his gang. Mrs Begum had told the court that she feared the raiders had killed her youngest son. She said: “They were hitting my husband. When I asked them to stop or looked up they started hitting him again. They told us to lie face down and not speak, or they would kill us. It was very terrifying.”

Salem was the only intruder caught after the incident in September last year, but his injuries meant that he was not fit to plead after being charged with false imprisonment. Salem, who has 50 past convictions, was given a two-year supervision order in September this year. He is now in custody awaiting trial for an alleged credit card fraud.

Munir and Tokeer Hussain, described as family men at the heart of the local community, were found guilty of causing grievous bodily harm with intent this year. The prosecution alleged that two other men also took part in the “revenge attack”. Judge John Reddihough gave a 30-month sentence to Munir and jailed Tokeer for 39 months.

Munir Hussain, who trained as an engineer, came to Britain in 1964 and founded a company that employs nine people and with a turnover of £2.4 million. He is a former chairman of the Wycombe Race Equality Council.

Judge Reddihough said that Hussain’s family had been subject to a “serious and wicked offence” and praised the bravery of his teenage son, who escaped to raise the alarm. He also noted the “courage” of Munir Hussain, but said that he carried out a “dreadful, violent attack” on Salem as he lay defenceless.

The judge told them: “If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting justice take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are the hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse.” Michael Wolkind, QC, defending Munir Hussain, promised to appeal.

He said that the case had similarities to that of Tony Martin, jailed in 2000 for shooting dead a teenage burglar. Martin’s murder conviction was reduced on appeal to manslaughter and his sentence to five years. In a statement, the family said: “We are devastated. We hope that justice will be served.”

 

[Dcav]

^^^^^That is definetly some injustice there.

 

[Texas42]

Nope, even if they are in your house you cannot assault them. They have stipulations as to what part of the house they can be in, threat of life / violence, etc.

It's a fucked up system.

I'd have to agree.

 

[Englishman]

Its in England . . . WTF did you expect?

The guys mistake was beating the crap out of the crook on the street but other than the punishment being a bit stiff, don’t you think he would have been charged just the same if it happened in Texas with a baseball bat ?

 

[kingofwylietx]

"The case prompted renewed debate over the level of force that house-holders can use against raiders"

I don't understand why there should be a debate about the level of force you can use when your home is raided. Cases like this simply act to support the criminal. How is that civilized and for how long do they expect to maintain the current level of 'civility' when they act to protect the criminals?

 

[Jeff B]

We need to offer the Texas version of the Castle Doctrine legislation.

They've been complaning of a budget shortfall, that would help a great deal with reducing the cost to incarcerate these turds.

Jeff B.

 

[Hawghauler]

When you read a story that is depicted as or appears to be excessive force I like to mention the state of mind of the victim. Victim being the person defending life, home, children, etc. If some dirtbag were come at the average man in his home, far be it from me to say he over did it. I hope I never am in that position, but if I am I have no idea where the off switch is. Are we rational when we are fighting for our lives? Do we think about judges and lawyers while we are trading blows? Brits are decent folks but as a society they have their heads in the sand when it comes to guns and self defense. Their cities are also rife with violent crime and as I recall their knife attacks among youth are off the charts.