Getting a rifle next week..

[Bigs Wife]

When I was at Academy today I found a CVA Elite Stalker .243 that I've decided I want. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about it. I was searching for a picture of it online but was unable to find one.

 

[dee]

Never heard of the brand keep us informed if you get it would like to at least see a pic of one.

 

[oldguy]

Connecticut Valley Arms, mostly muzzle loaders and kits but I guess they now have center fire and rim fire exchangeable barrels, I've never seen the model you looked at, I would think ok for hunting doubt the accuracy for serious target shooting due to the two piece stock, but thats only an opinion.

 

[Bigs Wife]

just curious as to why a two piece stock makes you doubt its accuracy.... i know nothing about any of this so I am just asking...

 

[Big country]

I've seen a few of these single shot rifles that will go under an inch. I never seen one that shot over an inch and a half. So I'm all for it. If she gets this rifle I get to go to the range more.

 

[cowboy45]

just curious as to why a two piece stock makes you doubt its accuracy.... i know nothing about any of this so I am just asking...

A two piece stock on a break open rifle has nothing to do with accuracy. I think OLDGUY is thinking about a falling block or rolling block action. On those types, the forearm is hung from the barrel and can put pressure between the barrel and the action and can cause it not to group a well. I have never seen the CVA, but it sounds like a mighty fine gun.
Go for it and good shooting.atriot:

 

[okie556]

I've seen a few of these single shot rifles that will go under an inch. I never seen one that shot over an inch and a half. So I'm all for it. If she gets this rifle I get to go to the range more.

I think this CVA will be similar to a T/C Encore..........I agree......it should go under an inch if Mrs. Big does her part.

 

[Bigs Wife]

I think this CVA will be similar to a T/C Encore..........I agree......it should go under an inch if Mrs. Big does her part.

Oh man, that could be bad then lol! The only thing that I'm dreading is having to clean the rifle myself and all that good stuff. I'm really excited about buying it on Friday though. Hopefully before then someone on here would have heard of it and can give me some insight... and what is a T/C Encore??

 

[oldguy]

Yep, I'm talking of the break open type action, I assumed in looking at the CVA website it was a break open, however again I still believe any forearm or two piece stock is more difficult to obtain accuracy without a lot of work,they are sensitive to forearm torque pressure, what and how the forearm is rested when fired,the break open types will change impact point when open and closed.

I'm just explaining my experiences with various guns of this type they simply don't compare to a bolt in accuracy on average out of the box but they are fine hunting guns easily to interchange barrels, etc. My feeling is if price is correct and you like the looks buy and try.

 

[Texas1911]

Of the 50-or-so break action guns I've shot from Rossi's to T/C's, etc. I have only shot one that would remotely go near 1" groups at 100 yards.

I absolutely will NEVER own, or suggest, a break-action gun to anyone.

Get a bolt-action, even the cheapest Remington 710 and Savage 11 will out shoot any break-action gun.

 

[cowboy45]

Of the 50-or-so break action guns I've shot from Rossi's to T/C's, etc. I have only shot one that would remotely go near 1" groups at 100 yards.

I absolutely will NEVER own, or suggest, a break-action gun to anyone.

Get a bolt-action, even the cheapest Remington 710 and Savage 11 will out shoot any break-action gun.

Why would a bolt gun be inherently more accurate?

 

[Bullseye Shooter]

Why would a bolt gun be inherently more accurate?

I'll try and give a short answer. A bolt action rifle has the entire action and barrel fitted into a rigid platform (the stock) which is not affected by external forces. A rifle with a separate stock and forend, like most lever actions and break-open rifles, has the action and barrel fitted between two separate pieces of wood (or other material) which allows the action to torque between the two.

 

[oldguy]

I'll try and give a short answer. A bolt action rifle has the entire action and barrel fitted into a rigid platform (the stock) which is not affected by external forces. A rifle with a separate stock and forend, like most lever actions and break-open rifles, has the action and barrel fitted between two separate pieces of wood (or other material) which allows the action to torque between the two.

Excellent, the bolt overall is a much more solid platform, more strength,
rigid, nothing beats a bolt for accuracy.

 

[country_boy]

what is a T/C Encore??

A thompson contender is a single shot break down that has interchangeable barrels and can shoot different calibers. The neat part of it is I can shoot a rifle round out of a short barrel. The highest Ill go is a 270.

 

[cowboy45]

I'll try and give a short answer. A bolt action rifle has the entire action and barrel fitted into a rigid platform (the stock) which is not affected by external forces. A rifle with a separate stock and forend, like most lever actions and break-open rifles, has the action and barrel fitted between two separate pieces of wood (or other material) which allows the action to torque between the two.

A rigid platform would be negated by free floating the barrel. Which is done quite often. Wouldn't it?

 

[Bigs Wife]

ahhhh so many words I don't understand!

 

[oldguy]

A rigid platform would be negated by free floating the barrel. Which is done quite often. Wouldn't it?

When I say rigid I'm speaking of the receiver area also most of the free floated barrels have a front bolt to tighten receiver /barrel in place while the break action depends on one bolt through the stock. Take a look at what bench rest shooters use, but the way I've used many two piece stocks for hunting and liked them especially lever actions.

 

[Bigs Wife]

we went back to academy today and Big took some pictures...

 

[cowboy45]

Very nice looking rifle. I'd say go for it.

 

[Jason]

How much is it?