Fostech Echo trigger system - a burst fire alternative

[Maverick44]

Let me first say I am not interested in gimmicky crap. If it isn't practical in some way, I really don't want it. I'm very picky about what goes onto my rifles, and that's one of the reasons I never bought into the "slide fire" craze. To me, it was just a way to do mag burns and nothing else.

Now this trigger system? I can see it actually being practical. The way it works is that it fires two times. Once when you pull the trigger, and once when the trigger resets. It makes use of the three position safety. You have a safety, a semi auto, and an "echo" position. It's also designed so that if you take one shot with the echo setting turned on, and decide you don't want to fire the second shot, you can stop it from firing by switching the safety lever to either SA or safe.

With the slide fire, it was hard to shoot accurately. You basically just sprayed bullets downrange. This system is a lot more precise, and therefore a lot more practical. It's not cheap, the MSRP is going to be $479, but it is as close to true full auto fire as your going to get without adding about $16,000-$20,000 to that price tag.

The ATF has already approved the design, so it is 100% legal. I'm planning on doing a 300 BLK SBR build soon, so I might just have to get this trigger.



http://fostechoutdoors.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=15

 

[Vec]

i saw his review the other day, I will get one

 

[orbitup]

Somebody needs to take one to Hicksville.

 

[Maverick44]

Somebody needs to take one to Hicksville.

I keep hearing references to Hicksville. What is it?

 

[Younggun]

A place to shoot guns and meet all the people you argue with on the Internet.

Forum tends to get friendlier for a little while after people put faces to names. Then back to normal until the next meet.


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[orbitup]

I keep hearing references to Hicksville. What is it?

https://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/hicksville/

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Holy shit that thing is sick!!!

 

[Maverick44]

A place to shoot guns and meet all the people you argue with on the Internet.

Forum tends to get friendlier for a little while after people put faces to names. Then back to normal until the next meet.


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https://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/hicksville/

Thanks guys. That only 3 hours away from my university. I might have to make a trip.

 

[cbigclarke]

Thanks guys. That only 3 hours away from my university. I might have to make a trip.

Don't worry...we all travel a couple of hours for this thing.

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[Maverick44]

Don't worry...we all travel a couple of hours for this thing.

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I few years back I went to one of these things for another forum. It was a 5 hour trip, but was well worth it. I had the privilege of meeting robocop there, and had an absolute blast.

 

[cbigclarke]

I can assure you the same here.

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[jrbfishn]

Hell yeah. Buy one of those triggers on the way. We'll be glad to help try it out.
No matter how many show up, It is great.

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[Maverick44]

I can assure you the same here.

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I found the thread about the last one. It looked like it was a blast

Hell yeah. Buy one of those triggers on the way. We'll be glad to help try it out.
No matter how many show up, It is great.

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If they're available, I might have to get one and stick it in my 5.56. That 300 BLK is going to take awhile.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

If they're available, I might have to get one and stick it in my 5.56. That 300 BLK is going to take awhile.

All you have to do is switch out the upper onto the same lower and switch the bolt between uppers. Goto love the modularity of ARs and the compatibility with 300 BLK

 

[Maverick44]

All you have to do is switch out the upper onto the same lower and switch the bolt between uppers. Goto love the modularity of ARs and the compatibility with 300 BLK

It's generally recommended not to swap bolts on ARs since they basically become "married" to the barrel after some use, but I believe that they only send you a stripped bolt carrier, not a full bolt, so that's not an issue. I'll just put the old bolt into the new carrier and it'll be good to go.

I definitely love the fact I can just swap out most parts on an AR at will.

 

[baboon]

Like all new things I'll give it a year to see if they got it right! That and to see if the BATFE don't renege!

 

[Tejano Scott]

I am impressed with these triggers. I like the Franklin BFS, but the bolt follow was having issues. I believe Franklin just released a new generation designed to deal with bolt follow. The Echo on the other hand, is designed to defeat that issue altogether. It won't be out till Fall, it seems lots of folks have waited forever for these triggers to be released.

 

[Younggun]

It's generally recommended not to swap bolts on ARs since they basically become "married" to the barrel after some use, but I believe that they only send you a stripped bolt carrier, not a full bolt, so that's not an issue. I'll just put the old bolt into the new carrier and it'll be good to go.

I definitely love the fact I can just swap out most parts on an AR at will.

Not really an issue. You can swap your carrier around, won't hurt nothin.


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[MikeyJ]

There's a patent on the Echo fcg. For the patent geeks, the patent examiner cited a forum posts as prior art, where the forum members were debating the pros and cons of fire-on-trigger-release. The posts are from 2009 and can be found here. http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-467402.html Entertaining reading.

 

[Sugar Land]

Or you can buy one that goes bang bang bang all by itself..lol