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  • Hoji

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    That made my day. Thank you.

    side note, bet he does not get accosted by homeless, thugs, or anyone else looking to harm their fellow man.
     

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    Younggun

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    I read the first link and nothing in it really gave much proof of anything. In fact, given how ridiculously strict animal abuse laws are now and the fact that he supposedly had video of it, yet he didn't face animal abuse charges...sounds like the complainers are maybe over reacting. They probably don't whoop their kids either.

    Most of what he's been in trouble for related the gov interference in business, and some possibly shady business practices. No convictions mentioned though.


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    robertc1024

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    Before you applaud this guy, notice how all of his dogs look like they're scared shitless? With their ears back and tails down? Yea... So I did a little googling and found this:

    http://www.puppyleaks.com/someone-shares-guy-walking-shepherds/

    The guy is a dog abuser, his training methods are considered extremely abusive.

    Oh, and this: https://expellingthegoggles.wordpre...gusto-deoliviera-of-griffin-shepherd-kennels/

    I think both of those articles are incredibly slanted. Do you have any experience training multiple dogs at the same time? Dogs are pack animals and have a social order. The sweetest alpha dog will get into fights with others to show dominance. They don't fight to the death like trained fighting dogs, but they will fight none the less to settle who is going to be boss. This is often the biggest failure of people who own dogs - if you want a well behaved, happy dog, the owner must be the one in charge - and the dog has to know it.

    Spiked collars are evil? Really? One of the greatest bird dog training devices ever are shock collars - if the people using them know what they are doing. You think they are abusive? Have you ever had a pointer run off in the field and be lost for days (not that unusual for field trial type dogs?) For run-off dogs before shock collars, people used to pepper their dogs with birdshot at long distances to get them to start listening to them, or stick one of their front legs through their collar to keep them from running too far. The trick to using the shock collars effectively vary tremendously on the temperament of the dog - on a hard headed pointer, some will hardly notice it. On softer dogs, it may be totally inappropriate.

    Case in point - I had an awesome retriever who was too nosy in the field and had her trained to not go after rattlesnakes. We put a shock collar on her and hid a dead rattler under some brush. Whenever she smelled the snake and went over to investigate, she got zapped - hard. Yes, she squealed, but after a couple of shots, she wouldn't even go near that brush. Was that abusive because I shocked the crap out of my dog? Or should I just let her be in charge and do whatever she wants when she smells a snake?

    I've spent the last 30 years around hunting dogs & professional trainers. I've seen a couple that I would consider over the top in how they treat the dogs, but they are the rare exception, most love the dogs they work with.

    As far as the video showing their obedience goes - meh. If you spend enough time training virtually any dog, that isn't that big a deal and in general Shepherds are very trainable.
     

    Hoji

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    Oddly enough, I agree with the swallow whisperer on this.

    I watched the video of the male "attacking" the younger dog. In my 50 years of being around dogs( well 50 years on Monday) I can state that there was no attack. This was a dominant dog teaching the younger dog where his position in the pack was. Nothing else.
     

    KramerBruh

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    Before you applaud this guy, notice how all of his dogs look like they're scared shitless? With their ears back and tails down? Yea... So I did a little googling and found this:

    http://www.puppyleaks.com/someone-shares-guy-walking-shepherds/

    The guy is a dog abuser, his training methods are considered extremely abusive.

    Oh, and this: https://expellingthegoggles.wordpre...gusto-deoliviera-of-griffin-shepherd-kennels/

    Haven't read the links but I agree with your original statement and I had the same thought when viewing the video. Those dogs looks scared sh**less...
     

    ROGER4314

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    Sorry, I don't agree. My take on this flick was:
    that the dogs totally accepted the man as the Alpha.
    they had great affection for that man and wanted to do well for him.
    they were well socialized and very comfortable being together.

    That stuff doesn't just happen. It takes work and constant repetition.

    In the first few weeks of my life with Jake the Wonder Dog, I acquainted him with the fly swatter. It didn't hurt him, but it got his attention! Jake has the attention span of a bug and it's hard for him to focus on what I want him to do. He also gets sassy like all Terriers do. All I need to do is say: "Do you want me to get the fly swatter?" Everything clicks, then!

    Friend Bonnie and I speak in front of Jake a lot. We began to spell subjects & words like "Park" or "go for a ride" but the little guy caught onto that, too!

    Jake is not afraid of me but he needs an occasional reminder, and the boy IS stubborn! Dr Mel says he is the most well behaved dog that she sees and she knows that I love the little guy! I talk to Jake all the time and he understands a lot more than dogs are given credit for.

    The dog learns about your role as the Alpha best by walking him on a leash. A leash made of string would do fine with a properly trained dog. It's not a restraint! It's a reminder that you are the boss and about how far you will allow him to wander away. His compliance is a commitment to you as the alpha

    Dogs want to please their Alpha and all it takes to make them happy is to help them understand what you want, be firm and consistent and treat them well.

    Flash
     
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    Army 1911

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    I once had a dog that didn't need a leash. She chose me of the family. She was 1.5 years old when we got her. Took her for a walk the first night. She snapped the fastener on the leash (Horse Lead) to chase a rabbit. Called her once and she came right back. That was the last time she was on a leash. She would meet me at the bus stop after school and if I drove to school, she would be asleep on the hood of the car when I got out.

    When shopping, she would lay down about 10 feet right or left of the door and wait. She was the dog that every one wants, but only one in a million gets.
     

    Moonpie

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    Pretty cool.

    I do NOT have the touch with dags.
    Only have the one smelly yard beast and that demon spawn can disappear like a cloud of smoke if he jailbreaks.
     
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