Anyone shoot a 308 win past 1000 yards?

[Younggun]

It all depends on your rifle. 99% of people who shoot 1k yards will handload so they can get the most from the gun.

Bullet selection is rifle dependent also. 175gr SMK, 178gr Amax, 178gr bthp...all good bullets. A rifle may prefer one over the others though. I tried Amax and wasn't impressed while they work great for others. Mine shoots SMKs really well.


Handloading should really be on your list of "things to do" if you want to get serious about long range shooting.


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[karlac]

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Great thread and info on a fascinating subject ...

 

[ussoldier1984]

It all depends on your rifle. 99% of people who shoot 1k yards will handload so they can get the most from the gun.

Bullet selection is rifle dependent also. 175gr SMK, 178gr Amax, 178gr bthp...all good bullets. A rifle may prefer one over the others though. I tried Amax and wasn't impressed while they work great for others. Mine shoots SMKs really well.


Handloading should really be on your list of "things to do" if you want to get serious about long range shooting.


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I am about to start handloading very very soon. I have been studying that and have the lee, lymans, and hornady books that I have been reading and a lot of online sources too. Just cant decide which loading kit to go with lee or horndy lol they both have everything you need minus the die's to start loading in the kit. and obviously projectile shells primer and powder

at 100-200 my savage 11 loves hornady 168 grain bthp I have yet to try a heavier grain though.

 

[Reelthrill]

To answer your question directly: .308 is a Rem700 AAC SD 20" Barrel. 20MOA Rail, Burris XTR II 4-20, Timney trigger.
After doing various ladder testing, my gun likes 168Gr Hornady A-Max loaded with 44.2 grains of Varget, and that is what I load for it. I bought plenty, so no need to switch over to ELD's yet. At 1,000 I am lobbing them in. However at 750 and less, with the right wind calls, it is very accurate.

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I now shoot 6.5CM at 1,000 with a 24" Barrel on a custom built gun. I shot 60% on target at BOTW this past weekend. Improving at 1,000 is due to shooting with others in a round robin with 2 spotters making the wind calls for the shooter.

As was stated above, having a spotter(s) helping you with the wind is imperative to gaining accuracy. A kestrel and the right ballistics calculator to help you adjust for wind based on the direction of the wind is also very useful.

 

[TxStetson]

Are they a consistent round? I have only been using hornady's 168 Grain bthp match for up to 200 yards and I can get sub moa groupings with them. Should I expect the same with the 178 grain?

I have a Savage 10P with a 20" 5R barrel and it loves these bullets over 42.3 grains of Varget. I haven't put a 20 moa rail on my rifle yet because my Nightforce scope has more than enough adjustment for me.

 

[Dawico]

Are they a consistent round? I have only been using hornady's 168 Grain bthp match for up to 200 yards and I can get sub moa groupings with them. Should I expect the same with the 178 grain?


Also The super performance match has higher velocities and less drop than the regular match. Would that be better than the regular match?

I hear the Superformance rounds give up accuracy for speed.

When you start handloading you will find that the fastest loads are generally not the most accurate.

If you want to shoot 1000 yards walk away from the 168s.

Pick the 175 SMK or 178 ELDM and make it work. Don't bother with testing both. Waste of effort. One may shoot a hair better than the other but you will waste hundreds of rounds figuring it out.

Pick IMR 4064, IMR or H4895, or Varget. Same as the bullets. They all work great so just pick one.

Buy 1000 primers. Match are nice but whatever.

One of the reasons the 308 is so popular is that it works very well with a variety of componants.

I always liked 4064 and Hornady 178s but just choose any of the above.

 

[dee]

I'll be honest if the wind blows much and the target isn't large a 308 can be very depressing for a new shooter at long distance. That being said it is one of the best rounds to learn wind.

The hornady 168 are ok but like mentioned are not the best per say. The sierra 168 is one that has a tendency to go transonic and destabilize usually in the 800+ range depending on a few factors although it does work at times for some.

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[ussoldier1984]

The general census is use at least 175gr so I am going to pick up some 178 grain hornady match rezero at 100 and practice with that round until I get used to it. I can't wait till my loading equipment comes in so I can start loading my own rounds.

 

[dee]

The general census is use at least 175gr so I am going to pick up some 178 grain hornady match rrezero.

For the most part that is correct. There are some exceptions though. If a decent speed can be obtained some of the 155gr bullet options preform really nice. That being said those will primarily be a option for a reloader only.

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[Wiliamr]

I know you are looking for info for .308 Win. but I thought you might find this interesting. I shoot long range silhouette (limited places to do this, ). So for a comparison to do what you are shooting for At 1000 yards the buffalo target is I shoot 45-70 with a 535gr Postell bullet over 70 grains of 1 1/2 Fg Swiss black powder with a muzzle velocity of 1050 fps. If I use a base zero for 100 yards, my tall rear vernier sight take 185 MOA to be on at 100 yards. I only use this load out to 500 yards, I switch to a load that has a muzzle velocity of 1185 fps for 600 to 1000. That one takes about 159 MOA. Those are some large targets at 1000, but from the firing line they look really small.

 

[ed308]

Anyone have experience with Nosler's .308 Custom Competition HPBT bullets at long range? They have them in 175 (BC .505), 190 (BC .535) and 220 (BC .690). Curious how they compare to Hornady and Sierra. I've used they 68, 77 and 115 gr Custom Comp bullets in .223 and 6.8 and have been pleased with their performance.

 

[Younggun]

I've used the 168gr and they worked ok. Went back to SMKs because they are usually easy to find. Only had the Nosler because someone picked them up for me during the O years.


I'd probably not look to much at the 220gr. I tried to find a way to make 208gr Amax work out of my .308 with 1/10 twist and just couldn't push them fast enough to stabilize or gain any benefit from the higher BC even if they did.


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[ed308]

Thanks. I'd like to try the 175. I have a bulk box of the 168. I try to buy those bullets at Shooters Pro Shop when they have them on sale and 1000 count bulk box.

 

[dee]

The cc are extremely close to the smk of similar weight. Now the rdf is a complete different animal and a solid jump up in B.C.

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[Younggun]

RDF?


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[dee]

RDF?


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Nosler new match bullet.

https://www.nosler.com/rdf-bullet/

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[Younggun]

Thanks


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[texanite15]

Go over seas and kill some haji's with that for me pls and thank you

 

[Hoji]

Hmm. I think I know where post # 26 is going to be at.

 

[gshayd]

I know you are looking for info for .308 Win. but I thought you might find this interesting. I shoot long range silhouette (limited places to do this, ). So for a comparison to do what you are shooting for At 1000 yards the buffalo target is I shoot 45-70 with a 535gr Postell bullet over 70 grains of 1 1/2 Fg Swiss black powder with a muzzle velocity of 1050 fps. If I use a base zero for 100 yards, my tall rear vernier sight take 185 MOA to be on at 100 yards. I only use this load out to 500 yards, I switch to a load that has a muzzle velocity of 1185 fps for 600 to 1000. That one takes about 159 MOA. Those are some large targets at 1000, but from the firing line they look really small.

So how long does it take that 45-70 to get out to 1000 yrds.