National Gun-Carry Reciprocity Bill Moves to Mark Up in the House

[Wedge1]

JeepFiend, it’s not about a ‘gotcha this’ or ‘gotcha that’ (at least with me)....if anybody is in one of these gun forums, my automatic assumption is, we ALL want the same thing! [Primarily, to be left alone by the government to enjoy firearms, whether collecting history, or self-defense, or shooting sports competition or hunting, or just plinking with your son or grandson]. And furthermore, I know of absolutely no gun owners (zilch, zero, notha) who are in favor of criminals or crazy people possessing guns. How to get there becomes the great problem of our time.

Why can’t crazy people or criminals have guns? Have you ever read « ...shall NOT be infringed upon? ». I have!!

 

[AustinN4]

And furthermore, I know of absolutely no gun owners (zilch, zero, notha) who are in favor of criminals or crazy people possessing guns. How to get there becomes the great problem of our time.

Amen, brother!

 

[easy rider]

Why can’t crazy people or criminals have guns? Have you ever read « ...shall NOT be infringed upon? ». I have!!

I think it's more of the fact that most our gun laws that we all now enjoy so much were do to the fact of crazy and or criminal people. I understand and certainly would like the laws to be as the constitution says, but even then I'm sure none of us want crazy criminals running around killing people. I am very sure, at least in my lifetime, that firearms will remain regulated.

 

[Younggun]

Sessions is planning on going after them under the same statutes.


It's funny democrats and republicans both claim to love states rights only when it suits them. Frankly weed, abortion, and many other things SHOULD be up to the states. Gun possession has already been decided the feds in December of 1791.

TBH, if this is the law then they probably should. Choosing not to enforce a law only sets up a huge fail for everyone.

Instead of choosing it to enforce a bad law, bad laws should be removed. I don't believe sessions choosing to enforce a current law is really a bad thing and it's something I think everyone expected to happen at some point (not necessarily based on sessions but from the very beginning).

 

[Younggun]

Why can’t crazy people or criminals have guns? Have you ever read « ...shall NOT be infringed upon? ». I have!!

Want to fix that, you'll have to actually start making hard decisions. If someone on the street isn't trusted enough to have all of their rights they should still be in prison. If they are trusted enough to walk among us, they should have all their rights.

People don't like having such responsibility.

 

[busykngt]

Gun possession has already been decided the feds in December of 1791.

I would suggest even earlier than that; perhaps in April 1775 at Lexington Green (the shot heard ‘round the world) or maybe June 1775 at Bunker Hill (men, don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes).

 

[Darkpriest667]

I would suggest even earlier than that; perhaps in April 1775 at Lexington Green (the shot heard ‘round the world) or maybe June 1775 at Bunker Hill (men, don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes).

The Bill of rights was not ratified until December of 1791. That's why I said that. I mean rights aren't established by the constitution but they are protected by it.

 

[oldag]

Want to fix that, you'll have to actually start making hard decisions. If someone on the street isn't trusted enough to have all of their rights they should still be in prison. If they are trusted enough to walk among us, they should have all their rights.

People don't like having such responsibility.

Losing some rights is part of the punishment, as well as (theoretically) part of the deterrent.

 

[NavyVet1959]

You’re going to find this odd but believe it or not there is a « standing » portion of the law in Texas Transportation Code. I know...hilarious. It speaks about (A) a motor vehicle used to transport persons and designed to accommodate more than 10 passengers, including the ..... (9) "Stand" or "standing" means to halt an occupied or unoccupied vehicle, other than temporarily while receiving or ...

Any idea when that was put in there? This incident happened to me around 1988, IIRC.

 

[NavyVet1959]

JeepFiend, it’s not about a ‘gotcha this’ or ‘gotcha that’ (at least with me)....if anybody is in one of these gun forums, my automatic assumption is, we ALL want the same thing! [Primarily, to be left alone by the government to enjoy firearms, whether collecting history, or self-defense, or shooting sports competition or hunting, or just plinking with your son or grandson]. And furthermore, I know of absolutely no gun owners (zilch, zero, notha) who are in favor of criminals or crazy people possessing guns. How to get there becomes the great problem of our time.

There are some of us who truly believe in the 2nd Amendment as intended by the Founding Fathers and we might *prefer* that criminals and crazy people not have guns, we believe that the 2nd Amendment is absolute and as such they do have that RIGHT as long as they are free men. The Founding Fathers did not see fit to provide for ANY exceptions to the Right to Bear Arms and in fact, they explicitly said, "Shall Not Be Infringed". If someone believes otherwise, they have started down that slippery slope.

 

[Wedge1]

There are some of us who truly believe in the 2nd Amendment as intended by the Founding Fathers and we might *prefer* that criminals and crazy people not have guns, we believe that the 2nd Amendment is absolute and as such they do have that RIGHT as long as they are free men. The Founding Fathers did not see fit to provide for ANY exceptions to the Right to Bear Arms and in fact, they explicitly said, "Shall Not Be Infringed". If someone believes otherwise, they have started down that slippery slope.

I fully realize that you’re gonna find this hard to believe coming from a Texas police officer, but I 100% agree with you! I have NEVER arrested any person my 24 years as an officer for simply having or possessing or baring a gun. I have for DOING something illegal with it, but never simply for having it. I abide by the 2nd amendment even on the job.

 

[Steve48]

I hope my state (MI) passes the Permitless Carry. Constitutional Carry is the best we can have anyways.

 

[busykngt]

Constitutional Carry is what I’d like to see for Texas too!

 

[SC-Texas]

Ya know, if the anti-gun crazies support the bill, it can't be good for us

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[smtimelevi]

You asked, so here’s your answer:
Officer makes a traffic stop for a violation. « Sir, I stopped you for running red might. Do you have your license and registration and proof of liability insurance on you? ». Yes, sir right here in the glove box. But before I reach over and get it I want to let you know I am armed and my weapon is in the middle console beside my wallet.
Officer: « no problem, just please don’t touch it while I am with you on this traffic stop ».
Also, antes to let you know I have a CCW permit from Florida and I handed it to you with my DL and insurance.
Officer: « thanks be right back and if all goes well you’ll likely not get a ticket. »

Officer returns from patrol car: « sir, your driver license is suspended and your insurance is out of date. Please step to the rear of your car. Please leave the gun in the console. ».

Off to the county jail we go! Why? Simple...you’ve decided to commit an offense and with full knowledge that we all know it’s ilkegsk to drive with suspended DL and no insurance.

As for the gun we now have an arrested person and also need to secure the weapon. No jurisdiction in the country will let an officer tow a car with a known weapon inside. So we secure the weapon for temporary custody to give back to you when you bond out. But we also need to run your CCW to also make sure it’s not suspended because everything else in your life clearly already is!!!! Lol.

Now
Make sense??

No need for a LTC or any non resident permit in Texas (and many other states) to Carry a firearm in a privately owned vehicle Mr. Fife

 

[Wedge1]

No need for a LTC or any non resident permit in Texas (and many other states) to Carry a firearm in a privately owned vehicle Mr. Fife

That’s « Captain Fife » show some respect

 

[locke_n_load]

Does anyone know of a site/article where someone has read through the combined bill and given a thorough synopsis? All I keep seeing is just a big general summary, but I believe the devil's in the details on this. Thanks.

 

[busykngt]

Does anyone know of a site/article where someone has read through the combined bill and given a thorough synopsis?

Congress.gov

 

[smtimelevi]

The stuff with NICS kills it for me. Also I dont think theres any way these commie states are going to allow their peasants to circumvent their unconstitutional gun laws. They wont go down without a fight

 

[NavyVet1959]

The stuff with NICS kills it for me. Also I dont think theres any way these commie states are going to allow their peasants to circumvent their unconstitutional gun laws. They wont go down without a fight

They should have put provisions for 10 times the lawyer fees for punitive damages if they harass a person and he has to defend himself. Awh, 'ell, let's make it 100 times...