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  • Panhandler88

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    New to the forum and I have a dumb issue that I can’t seem to fix. I have a Savage 6.5 CM, and have mounted a Bushnell 18X50. When I first mounted I rain into issues with bolt clearance with low rings so I put medium Leupold rings on it. Went to range and I righ out of elevation adjusting and was still 4” low and almost ran out of windage. This scope was bore sighted to gun before hand. So in my thinking I went and swapped rings and put on a high set and issue got worse. Was I incorrect with my theory to go to higher rings because I can’t run the action smooth with low rings and that scope. Any insight would be great I’m new to bolt guns. I’m an archery hunter so cut me some slack LMAO
     

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    New to the forum and I have a dumb issue that I can’t seem to fix. I have a Savage 6.5 CM, and have mounted a Bushnell 18X50. When I first mounted I rain into issues with bolt clearance with low rings so I put medium Leupold rings on it. Went to range and I righ out of elevation adjusting and was still 4” low and almost ran out of windage. This scope was bore sighted to gun before hand. So in my thinking I went and swapped rings and put on a high set and issue got worse. Was I incorrect with my theory to go to higher rings because I can’t run the action smooth with low rings and that scope. Any insight would be great I’m new to bolt guns. I’m an archery hunter so cut me some slack LMAO
    Does the rifle have a 20MOA pic rail on it that you are attaching the rings to?
     

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    If you have the little individual rail pieces, see if they’re lined up right, and tight. You can also try spinning them around or swapping places with them. Or just put a 20 moa rail on there and problem solved.
     

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    If he's running into issues getting enough elevation to zero there is a larger issue at play than a 20moa rail will fix.
     

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    New to the forum and I have a dumb issue that I can’t seem to fix. I have a Savage 6.5 CM, and have mounted a Bushnell 18X50. When I first mounted I rain into issues with bolt clearance with low rings so I put medium Leupold rings on it. Went to range and I righ out of elevation adjusting and was still 4” low and almost ran out of windage. This scope was bore sighted to gun before hand. So in my thinking I went and swapped rings and put on a high set and issue got worse. Was I incorrect with my theory to go to higher rings because I can’t run the action smooth with low rings and that scope. Any insight would be great I’m new to bolt guns. I’m an archery hunter so cut me some slack LMAO


    The height of the rings won't make enough difference to prevent sighting in. Something is misaligned or mismatched.

    Pics of the setup?
     

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    If the scope was obstructing the bolt movement then you have no option but to change to higher rings (short of changing to a different scope, of course). Now you just have to get your scope aligned.

    You may try changing the direction of your rings (side facing the muzzle turned to face the buttstock) and/or swap the front and back... just don't do both at the same time or you're introducing two variables at the same time.

    One more thing to remove a potential variable... do you know for sure that your scope is in good working order?

    As Younggun said, pictures of your setup could be helpful.
     

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    The height of the rings won't make enough difference to prevent sighting in. Something is misaligned or mismatched.

    Pics of the setup?
     

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    Try what acorneau suggsted. You may also try lapping the rings.
    But like younggun said, you may have other problems as well. I have bought mounts before that just would not work.

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    If the scope was obstructing the bolt movement then you have no option but to change to higher rings (short of changing to a different scope, of course). Now you just have to get your scope aligned.

    You may try changing the direction of your rings (side facing the muzzle turned to face the buttstock) and/or swap the front and back... just don't do both at the same time or you're introducing two variables at the same time.

    One more thing to remove a potential variable... do you know for sure that your scope is in good working order?

    As Younggun said, pictures of your setup could be helpful.
    Scope should be good it’s a pretty reputable brand was purchased brand new. I’ve never had any other issues with any kind of optics from this company
     

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    Exactly which model of leupold rings are those. I searched it didn't see any that matched the style. They appear very tall for medium height rings.
     

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    Reading again it sounds like you ran out of elevation adjustment with medium rings, then you swapped them for the rings in the picture and haven't shot since?

    May sound like we are hounding you about details, and we are. Some very small overlooked issue can create big problems.
     

    Panhandler88

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    Reading again it sounds like you ran out of elevation adjustment with medium rings, then you swapped them for the rings in the picture and haven't shot since?

    May sound like we are hounding you about details, and we are. Some very small overlooked issue can create big problems.
    Those are the high rings I just hand laying around the house cheap I think weaver style. I did shoot with those high ones today and it was as bad or worse at 25 yds
     

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    I may have misread but I don't believe you said you shot the rifle with the low rings either.

    If that is the case I would recommend removing the bases and making sure there surfaces on the receiver and scope bases are clean. Then remount the scope making sure that everything is fully seated and aligned. If problem persists, throw another acopenon the rifle.

    If you don't have much experience mounting scopes and sighting rifles, get a buddy to help. Sometimes a second set of eyes makes all the difference.
     

    Panhandler88

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    I never fired the weapon with low rings only the medium Leupold rings and the pictures high ones I’m not sure what junk brand they are. It is really high especially conpaired to any of the “high” vortex rings I have on my AR stuff
     

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    They remind me of the see through rings for a 10/22, lol.

    I've got a bucket of junk rings. They come in handy every now and then.
     

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    When I first mounted I rain (ran) into issues with bolt clearance with low rings so I put medium Leupold rings on it.
    Explain the bolt clearance issue.

    Also, you need to understand that one ring manufacture's "low" rings might be another's "medium". You can only truely compare one manufacture to another by the actual measurement of height.

    You should really only want enough ring height for the front objective to not touch the barrel and not much more. And just enough for lens caps if you use them.

    Read this: https://forum.snipershide.com/articles/6257746-ring-height-info-how-to-measure-correctly
     
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