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  • jeepinbanditrider

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    Maybe you should think more about avoiding a crash then thinking you will crash.

    I don't ride around thinking about it but know it can happen. You can't ignore the FACT that you're at greater risk of injury in an accident on a motorcycle than in a cage. Many MANY things happen on the road beyond our personal control.


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    Wildcat Diva

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    Yes. My dad is lucky that lifelong knee pain is the least of his problems when he was sent flying over the car that didn’t see him and pulled out in front of him on a motorcycle when I was a little kid.

    Glad my husband has no interest in a motorcycle. People are welcome to enjoy it themselves, but I won’t support someone I love and depend on frequenting that mode of travel. I just don’t know what I’m missing there, being a bike lover, and I’m fine with that.
     

    easy rider

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    I don't ride around thinking about it but know it can happen. You can't ignore the FACT that you're at greater risk of injury in an accident on a motorcycle than in a cage. Many MANY things happen on the road beyond our personal control.


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    Certainly, you absolutely have to be more aware of your surroundings and you have to anticipate what others can and will do. Watch everyone, trust no one.
     

    ZX9RCAM

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    all I can say is never brag about your adventures with no serious accidents. Not that I had a long run before a cage broke my left leg in 3 places.
    Broke left, then right collar bones in separate wrecks, shattered my ankle requiring 3 screws in another.

    ETA: 2 wrecks on the street, 1 on the track.
     

    easy rider

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    I didn't intend it as a brag. I couldn't imagine not riding, it's the life I chose, it's the life I love. I also don't prepare myself that this could be the ride where I may wreck. If it happens, it happens, but I'm not going to alter my life in anticipation of it.
     

    jeepinbanditrider

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    Broken both wrists and my thumb. Only thing that prevented more injuries was good riding gear. It's not a force field but it goes a long way to walking away from an accident.

    One of mine involved a flooded road another involved a patch of ice and another had a storm blow an orange road construction barrel in front of me that my front tire went into.


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    Maybe you should think more about avoiding a crash then thinking you will crash.

    There's two kinds of bikers; those who've crashed, and those who will crash.

    All the statistics agree the over whelming case of motorcycle injuries is a car interfering with he motorcycles line of travel. As a ex-motorcyclinst I can attest to the the fact that every single time they had to use a ball peen hammer and industrial strength spatula to get my a$$ off the seat, it was some car driver pulling right out in front of me. Every single time I almost got killed, it was some car or mini van with a woman and kids in the car.

    I got my first bike in 1984, and rode until 2001. I'd had it. Too many VERY close calls, too many friends that didn't make it and got really screwed up. Said the hell with it and never looked back. I was 50 years old when I sold the last bike, and I was just tired of soooo many things like almost getting killed too many times, freezing cold that makes black ice, rain, and not being able to carry much on a trip. Terrible way to travel. Now I drive a nice car and listen to some good music going down the road. And Have a truck to carry spare guns in, locked up and outa sight when I stop someplace.

    Never missed the bike at all. Hasta la vista, baby!
     

    easy rider

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    No, but do you go stand out on the roof of the barn in a thunder storm and dare it to hit you?
    No, I'm saying that the one sure thing is that none of us are getting out of this life alive. If I decide not to do things based on I could die, have I cheated death? Have I truly lived? I'm not afraid of dying as much as I'm afraid of not living.

    I would rather die doing something I love, then die in bed in fear of dying.
     

    Partock

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    I started experimenting with OC when the law changed and I've been surprised that my experiences have been overwhelming positive. I moved from a Houston address to a Spring address recently and there was a Walgreens I frequented at my old address. I visited that store on a regular basis and it was almost three months before they noticed I was OC'ing, and they said they wished they saw more.
    Was with the family in a Walmart in Spring and had somebody come up and ask a ton of questions on my experiences carrying because they were thinking about it. I think generally, in my experience, it's mostly ignored.
     

    Noggin

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    A couple of weeks ago I was picking up a take out in Panda Express in College Station and the guy at the register asked me what I was carrying, he then went on to talk about his own plan to get his LTC. Some months earlier I was asked the same question by a woman while I was getting groceries in Kroger, she then went on to say that her husband (who was not there with her) usually open carried and that they have tended to avoid HEB because of it's 30:07 policy

    I was recently at Whataburger, which I have always believed to be 30:07 but I saw no signs, I took a walk around outside to check both entrances but still no signs, does anyone know if they have changed their 30:07 position?
     

    easy rider

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    A couple of weeks ago I was picking up a take out in Panda Express in College Station and the guy at the register asked me what I was carrying, he then went on to talk about his own plan to get his LTC. Some months earlier I was asked the same question by a woman while I was getting groceries in Kroger, she then went on to say that her husband (who was not there with her) usually open carried and that they have tended to avoid HEB because of it's 30:07 policy

    I was recently at Whataburger, which I have always believed to be 30:07 but I saw no signs, I took a walk around outside to check both entrances but still no signs, does anyone know if they have changed their 30:07 position?
    No sign, no law broken if do go in. They can ask you to leave or cover it, but that's about it.
     

    fishingsetx

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    A couple of weeks ago I was picking up a take out in Panda Express in College Station and the guy at the register asked me what I was carrying, he then went on to talk about his own plan to get his LTC. Some months earlier I was asked the same question by a woman while I was getting groceries in Kroger, she then went on to say that her husband (who was not there with her) usually open carried and that they have tended to avoid HEB because of it's 30:07 policy

    I was recently at Whataburger, which I have always believed to be 30:07 but I saw no signs, I took a walk around outside to check both entrances but still no signs, does anyone know if they have changed their 30:07 position?
    From what I understood, whataburger never posted signs. They did say that they would prefer you to conceal though. As stated above, they can ask you to conceal or leave, but from my experience, they either dont ask, ir dont even notice it.

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    BillRedding

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    As a few here have already noted, MOST people don't even notice people OCing, probably because seeing people who OC is one notch below seeing a unicorn: It just ain't likely at all. Consequently, people aren't expecting to see anyone carry (except cops). Even *I* have to be deliberately looking for OCers or else *I* usually don't notice, either. ;-)

    If people DO notice, however, hardly anyone says anything about it -- they might think OCers are some kind of LEO (detective, narco, whatever) and don't give it any further thought (who knows). On occasion though, some people DO notice and ask questions...which give me an opportunity to "spread the gospel" of having a personal self-protection/self-defense PLAN and encourage them to start CARRYING, be it OC or CC (as 99.99% of carriers do). I couldn't have such conversations if I were CCing, as (by definition) no one would see my gun! ;-)

    IME OCing (here in ELP and in various cities/towns/suburbs in Colorado and New Mexico), ALL but one of the comments I've received have been positive, only the one was "mildly critical" (from a clueless old-guy liberal, a victim-waiting-to-happen and completely unaware of it -- or in-denial).

    I OC every day and pretty much everywhere I go...except Federal property (VA Healthcare Facilities, military bases, SS office and USPS), but do not OC where my business is not wanted (because I DO carry) -- such as anti-gun Starbucks and other shops/eateries/stores -- so I won't support (boycott) such businesses with my money. As for some other GFZs (malls, for one example), I switch to conceal, as anything can happen at any time, and the mall cops (not even armed) wouldn't be able to save me, anyone else or even themselves for that matter. I also don't carry where there are metal detectors! ;-)

    So each of us has to make that call ourselves: Be a "good" (but dead) law-abiding citizen or a "bad" (but alive) outlaw citizen -- if "stuff happens." NO place is safe anymore, not even @ home.

    -- BR
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