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  • Wildcat Diva

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    I’m very disappointed in the Sheriff’s answers and the NRA Spokeswoman’s answers to this town hall.

    They are throwing mental health under the bus. Wanting to take people’s rights “before” they are a danger to anyone. Law enforcement “shouldn’t have to wait” for someone to be a danger to self or others they can take people somewhere ahead of that to be evaluated and say “yeah, do it” and their guns and rights get taken away “forever” and “they should never get them back.”

    Uh yeah, nothing is gonna go wrong with this picture. No likelihood of abuse of power here.

    Also, people are gonna run as far as they can from mental health “help” lest it be used against them.


    In California, if you are "in a bad way" and seek professional help, if the therapist, or whomever decides that you are a danger to yourself (and they always add "others", to add sway) apparently HIPPA doesnt count in this communist state.

    If you are incarcarated for 72 hours, the CA DOJ, firearms division will pay you a visit to collect your firearms, in the dark of night. This happened to someone I know, who was not informed that they had to sell their firearms, since they were now on a "prohibibted persons" list.

    Thankfully my friend knew their constitutional rights, and since the DOJ had no warrant, were sent on thier way. Fact is that the TRULY mentally ill people in society are _less_ inclined to violence, including using firearms, then the general public is. I'd be more concerned about a drunk/stoned person with a firearm.
     

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    So, I know that’s not exactly what you said, but you post gets me to thinking. What I said was taking what you said to the next level. Building on it.

    And, by Texas law... I’m not permitted to report any client who I think is a threat. It’s illegal. I would be violating the law, so how should I be sued for following the law?

    See my quote below.
    Basically, this:
    “Thus, in Texas, a psychotherapist who acts on a duty to warn and/or protect when a client expresses the intent to harm another individual would be violating Texas law and placing her or himself at great legal risk.”

    I have no access to anyone’s records unless they are public or if they provide me consent. Yes of course having multiple sources is always good for an assessment, but that hardly ever happens.

    If someone said that I would try to get them to report on themselves and encourage them to develop a safety plan. If a minor, I would involve the parent, and the doctor of our treatment team that I may communicate with by default in my current employment.

    This wouldn’t be the first or last time I say this, but that law is idiotic. Teachers with little to no actual training or interview time are required to report kids that they have reason to believe are a danger or in danger. Idiotic to limit professionals with training and experience to from being able to report threats. Nothing about idiot politicians surprises me though.
     

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    That CLEO is a piece of work. He knew his people failed to enter and stop the shooter. He knew his people screwed up investigating this kid; yet he goes on TV spouting his crap. I hope he looses his job, but I’m not going to hold his voters to that high a standard.


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    This wouldn’t be the first or last time I say this, but that law is idiotic. Teachers with little to no actual training or interview time are required to report kids that they have reason to believe are a danger or in danger. Idiotic to limit professionals with training and experience to from being able to report threats. Nothing about idiot politicians surprises me though.
    It’s not idiotic becuase it goes against the counseling relationship to require us to report threats. I can say even TODAY I had a kid in session say she would like to strangle her teacher. Now if I report that, she is done (therapy-wise) stick a fork in her, she’s not trusting me anymore (we are two sessions in presently).
    I honestly don’t think she would do it.

    But what if I am wrong? If this happens daily (and it it pretty much does) that I get a low level threat, don’t you think someday, someone’s gonna actually do it? And is that on me, for not making a call to someone (who?) to report every damn day and 99% of the time NEEDLESSLY ruining a vast majority of the therapy relationships I try to develop?

    I don’t deserve the pressure of deciding what threats are credible and weighing that against breaking confidentiality. That’s not my job, to predict violence, or to report every violent fantasy.
     
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