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  • gdr_11

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    The biggest problem with the internet is the overwhelming amount of information...true and otherwise that bombards us every day. For those of you who ever watched the Stargate series, it is like Jack O'Neill getting his brain filled with the knowledge of the Ancients and then almost dying as a result.

    Even though the Las Vegas mass shooting is long past and the FBI has been successful in putting the case to bed, there remains too much about the shooter and the circumstances to satisfy many of us. In the age of government misinformation and because many of the mid to upper level FBI managers are still Obama era appointees, this True Pundit article rang my bell with the allegations about the depth of an FBI coverup.

    I personally do not subscribe to these theories but I do believe that the FBI had more information then they let on, and I actually believe that they knew this guy long before the shooting and fell all over themselves to paint a picture of a mystery man rather than tell us the whole story about who he was, what his political affiliations were and if he had done any prior work for the government, legal or otherwise.

    In any case, I am setting this aside and am going to purposefully avoid any more articles on this incident until my brain clears. I can't handle any more "anonymous sources".

    https://truepundit.com/fbi-insiders...uding-isis-terror-link-mandalay-bay-massacre/
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    majormadmax

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    Limit yourself to known, validated sources of information and tune out the other 99.98% of bullshit that people post on the Internet, and you'll be just fine.

    The bigger problem is the 99.99% of the population that believe anything and everything that is posted on the world wide web without doing any research on the topic. Hell, in the past 24 hours I have disproved several urban myths consisting of using car headrests to break windows and numerous missing child reports that have since been found (or were BS to begin with, such as the one with Quebec license plates). Even CNN claims that most people don't have a problem with daylight saving time, but the vast majority of folks I know hate it.

    Rise above the noise and seek the truth, as it will set you free!! :loaded:
     

    tonyt79

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    I agree with you on this.

    But I also agree that many many people get their news from Facebook and social media. I don’t have any personal Facebook, instagram, or twitter. I do use them for business and I tend to go down the rabbit hole of reading the political or current event type pages. A lot of information is flat out lies or misleading, but people seem to believe it. Some people get their news from memes.


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    Davetex

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    benenglish

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    ...numerous missing child reports that have since been found (or were BS to begin with...
    But...if you do that, how will the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children pad their numbers and panic people? Think of the children!!

    Sorry, but you struck a nerve, there. The story is pretty simple.

    When I was a teen, I was watching the Donohue talk show. Oldsters may remember him and how he'd latch onto anything sensational. This was back when the moral panic about (completely non-existent, as it turned out) satanic child molestation/sacrifice cults was heating up. There was a rep from the NCMEC appearing on the show.

    This guy said that 50,000 children went missing each year in the U.S. Everybody in the audience just nodded and acknowledged how awful that was. Something seemed off to me, though. We'd just studied something in school about casualties in the Vietnam war. I had been taught that there had been between 50K and 60K KIA in Vietnam. I knew several families that had lost someone in Vietnam. Everyone I knew also knew of people known to them who were killed in Vietnam.

    Yet roughly the same number of kids went missing? Every year?

    I had never known of a missing kid. As far as I knew, they were rare. Yet this expert was saying something completely different. This stuck with me. The bit was in my teeth and I was determined to learn the truth.

    Back in those days, ferreting out the numbers wasn't easy but several trips to several libraries eventually produced numbers. At the time, the only LEA in the U.S. doing a good job of tracking child abductions in the U.S. wasn't the FBI, as you might think. It was the Illinois State Police. Their conclusion was that the number of kids snatched by strangers across the U.S. every year was between 50 and 150.

    That number had stayed pretty steady over decades. I'm not sure about recent years; I stopped tracking it a long time ago. Still, 50K was outlandish.

    Then I did some digging into the NCMEC numbers. They had counted every non-custodial parent abduction, even when there was clearly no danger. They counted every runaway every time; if one kid ran away 100 times (Wasn't there one in every school?), they counted that as 100 missing kids. They counted kids who had been missing for decades and were long past 18, meaning that if they hadn't contacted their parents they were either dead or didn't want to contact their parents. They never took anything off their rolls, either, even if the kids were later found.

    Now, the spokesman may have just suffered a slip of the tongue when he said "every year" but 50K total, for the last couple of decades, was still a ridiculous overstatement.

    Later, the NCMEC motivations became clear. They became an official United Nations NGO under the umbrella of the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They get government and international funding to take missing children reports. As the U.S. NGO in this area, they have a monopoly on being the only quasi-civilian organization that is allowed to accept reports, including media, of child porn. They maintain a file hash database of child porn used by LEOs to search for obscene material.

    In short, they used a very old sales technique. By panicking people and making them fear for their kids, they created the perception of a need. Then they stepped forward to fill that need (for consulting, tracking, etc.), got a U.N. stamp of approval, and ensured they would create a bureaucracy that would make money for the execs at the top for the foreseeable future.

    To be clear, the NCMEC does necessary work. So does the ICMEC and the various national versions across the world.

    That doesn't change the fact that they made egregious use of sensational and false statistics (fake news before we called it fake news) to create the market that they use to make money even today.

    The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth.

    It also left me with too much cynicism. I tend to assume all news reports are wrong, by default. I've been blatantly quoted out of context in the Wall Street Journal when they had an agenda to push, so I take this stuff kinda personally.

    I shouldn't. I shouldn't be so cynical. It's not good for my soul. However, I doubt I'll ever change.
     

    Byrd666

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    Isn't there an old Aesop's fable, or Confucius saying saying something about how cynical people tend to live longer because they only digest what doesn't kill them?

    It really is though, kind of a sensory overload with all the good, bad, and otherwise information coming at ya' in all directions. And then verifying it all. It's almost a full time job anymore to come up with a completely factual article.
     

    Charlie

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    But...if you do that, how will the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children pad their numbers and panic people? Think of the children!!

    Sorry, but you struck a nerve, there. The story is pretty simple.

    When I was a teen, I was watching the Donohue talk show. Oldsters may remember him and how he'd latch onto anything sensational. This was back when the moral panic about (completely non-existent, as it turned out) satanic child molestation/sacrifice cults was heating up. There was a rep from the NCMEC appearing on the show.

    This guy said that 50,000 children went missing each year in the U.S. Everybody in the audience just nodded and acknowledged how awful that was. Something seemed off to me, though. We'd just studied something in school about casualties in the Vietnam war. I had been taught that there had been between 50K and 60K KIA in Vietnam. I knew several families that had lost someone in Vietnam. Everyone I knew also knew of people known to them who were killed in Vietnam.

    Yet roughly the same number of kids went missing? Every year?

    I had never known of a missing kid. As far as I knew, they were rare. Yet this expert was saying something completely different. This stuck with me. The bit was in my teeth and I was determined to learn the truth.

    Back in those days, ferreting out the numbers wasn't easy but several trips to several libraries eventually produced numbers. At the time, the only LEA in the U.S. doing a good job of tracking child abductions in the U.S. wasn't the FBI, as you might think. It was the Illinois State Police. Their conclusion was that the number of kids snatched by strangers across the U.S. every year was between 50 and 150.

    That number had stayed pretty steady over decades. I'm not sure about recent years; I stopped tracking it a long time ago. Still, 50K was outlandish.

    Then I did some digging into the NCMEC numbers. They had counted every non-custodial parent abduction, even when there was clearly no danger. They counted every runaway every time; if one kid ran away 100 times (Wasn't there one in every school?), they counted that as 100 missing kids. They counted kids who had been missing for decades and were long past 18, meaning that if they hadn't contacted their parents they were either dead or didn't want to contact their parents. They never took anything off their rolls, either, even if the kids were later found.

    Now, the spokesman may have just suffered a slip of the tongue when he said "every year" but 50K total, for the last couple of decades, was still a ridiculous overstatement.

    Later, the NCMEC motivations became clear. They became an official United Nations NGO under the umbrella of the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They get government and international funding to take missing children reports. As the U.S. NGO in this area, they have a monopoly on being the only quasi-civilian organization that is allowed to accept reports, including media, of child porn. They maintain a file hash database of child porn used by LEOs to search for obscene material.

    In short, they used a very old sales technique. By panicking people and making them fear for their kids, they created the perception of a need. Then they stepped forward to fill that need (for consulting, tracking, etc.), got a U.N. stamp of approval, and ensured they would create a bureaucracy that would make money for the execs at the top for the foreseeable future.

    To be clear, the NCMEC does necessary work. So does the ICMEC and the various national versions across the world.

    That doesn't change the fact that they made egregious use of sensational and false statistics (fake news before we called it fake news) to create the market that they use to make money even today.

    The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth.

    It also left me with too much cynicism. I tend to assume all news reports are wrong, by default. I've been blatantly quoted out of context in the Wall Street Journal when they had an agenda to push, so I take this stuff kinda personally.

    I shouldn't. I shouldn't be so cynical. It's not good for my soul. However, I doubt I'll ever change.
    Sorry, couldn't make myself read all of it. Too verbose.
     

    V-Tach

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    Every social feel good organization, it seems to me pad the numbers outrageously.....
     
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