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Tillerson is out, Pompeo is in.

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    Tillerson is out, Pompeo is in.

    More here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3d931db7f68_story.html?utm_term=.db9fc195555c

    “I am proud to nominate the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Mike Pompeo, to be our new Secretary of State,” Trump said. “Mike graduated first in his class at West Point, served with distinction in the U.S. Army, and graduated with Honors from Harvard Law School. He went on to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives with a proven record of working across the aisle.”
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    Southpaw

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    Already taken, sorry.

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    Good, Tillerson has been dragging his feet for the past year.

    I agree. I was never all that keen on Tillerson in the first place. Trump is the consummate manager. And what does a manager do when he/she has an employee who is not doing the job to his/her standards? He/she replaces said employee.

    I don't see it as a "revolving door". I see it as effective management.
     

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    Dibs on Director of CIA position!!!

    Too bad they gave that position to CIA Deputy Director Gina Haspel - a woman neck-deep involved with the CIA's torture program and lying about it to Congress - as Edward Snowden pointed out today: "The new CIA director was a key part of the torture program and its illegal cover-up. Her name was on the Top Secret order demanding the destruction of tapes to prevent them being seen by Congress."

    Read more on that here: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378112-snowden-on-haspel-cia-uniforms-should-be-decorated-with-skulls

    There's also a link here, which indicates she may have issues traveling to the EU: https://www.ecchr.eu/en/our_work/international-crimes-and-accountability/u-s-accountability/germany.html

    Don't know about others, but IMHO when we started torturing folks just as the Nazis, Japs and the VietCong did to our veterans - made me sick 'cus that meant our government was no better than those ba$t@rds our brave soldiers died to rid the world of......
     

    avvidclif

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    There's a new sheriff in town and all those pooh-pooh correct politicians from other countries better pay attention.

    Sounds like the absolute best candidate for Director. No more molly-coddling terrorists.
     

    oldag

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    Too bad they gave that position to CIA Deputy Director Gina Haspel - a woman neck-deep involved with the CIA's torture program and lying about it to Congress - as Edward Snowden pointed out today: "The new CIA director was a key part of the torture program and its illegal cover-up. Her name was on the Top Secret order demanding the destruction of tapes to prevent them being seen by Congress."

    Read more on that here: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378112-snowden-on-haspel-cia-uniforms-should-be-decorated-with-skulls

    There's also a link here, which indicates she may have issues traveling to the EU: https://www.ecchr.eu/en/our_work/international-crimes-and-accountability/u-s-accountability/germany.html

    Don't know about others, but IMHO when we started torturing folks just as the Nazis, Japs and the VietCong did to our veterans - made me sick 'cus that meant our government was no better than those ba$t@rds our brave soldiers died to rid the world of......

    Torture program?

    Waterboarding three terrorists (not soldiers) is not a torture program. Comparing that to the Nazis, Japs and VC is simply ludicrous and incredibly ignorant.
     

    majormadmax

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    Too bad they gave that position to CIA Deputy Director Gina Haspel - a woman neck-deep involved with the CIA's torture program and lying about it to Congress - as Edward Snowden pointed out today: "The new CIA director was a key part of the torture program and its illegal cover-up. Her name was on the Top Secret order demanding the destruction of tapes to prevent them being seen by Congress."

    Read more on that here: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378112-snowden-on-haspel-cia-uniforms-should-be-decorated-with-skulls

    There's also a link here, which indicates she may have issues traveling to the EU: https://www.ecchr.eu/en/our_work/international-crimes-and-accountability/u-s-accountability/germany.html

    Don't know about others, but IMHO when we started torturing folks just as the Nazis, Japs and the VietCong did to our veterans - made me sick 'cus that meant our government was no better than those ba$t@rds our brave soldiers died to rid the world of......

    Really, you're quoting Snowden as if he is a source of integrity and honor? He is a traitor to this country, and he can go fu*** himself with a jackhammer for all I care about his opinion.

    Haspel has balls, and they probably saved a lot more lives than most realize whereas your buddy Snowden

    Hopefully she'll help re-open the doors to GTMO. There is a long list of "customers" that are overdue in checking in there...
     

    diesel1959

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    Torture program?

    Waterboarding three terrorists (not soldiers) is not a torture program. Comparing that to the Nazis, Japs and VC is simply ludicrous and incredibly ignorant.
    And, when it was being done, it was done within the law and was sanctioned under US policy at the time. There's no claim that the practice continued on her watch after it was withdrawn as a legitimate method. This woman has balls and is a fairly perfect candidate for DCI.
     

    DwnRange

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    Torture program?

    Waterboarding three terrorists (not soldiers) is not a torture program. Comparing that to the Nazis, Japs and VC is simply ludicrous and incredibly ignorant.

    Sir, are you really "that" uniformed on the topic of the US torturing prisoners, at Abu Graib and other "rendition" locations around the globe?

    Here's just some of it:
    - Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; pouring cold water on naked detainees; beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; threatening male detainees with rape; allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick, and using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.

    - On November 20, 2002, Gul Rahman froze to death in a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan called the “Salt Pit,” after a CIA case officer ordered guards to strip him naked, chain him to the concrete floor, and leave him there overnight without blankets.

    - Syria was one of the “most common destinations for rendered suspects,” as were Egypt and Jordan. One Syrian prison facility contained individual cells that were roughly the size of coffins. Detainees report incidents of torture involving a chair frame used to stretch the spine (the “German chair”) and beatings.

    - After being extraordinarily rendered by the United States to Egypt in 2002, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, under threat of torture at the hands of Egyptian officials, fabricated information relating to Iraq’s provision of chemical and biological weapons training to Al Qaeda. In 2003, then Secretary of State Colin Powell relied on this fabricated information in his speech to the United Nations that made the case for war against Iraq.

    - Muhammed al-Zery and Ahmed Agiza, while seeking asylum in Sweden, were extraordinarily rendered to Egypt where they were tortured with shocks to their genitals. Al-Zery was also forced to lie on an electrified bed frame.

    The Senate Select Intelligence Committee has completed a 6,000 page report that further details the CIA detention and interrogation operations with access to classified sources. In December, 2014, the committee released a redacted 525-page portion of the report, which included its key findings and an executive summary of the full report. The rest of the report remains classified.

    Torture is prohibited in all circumstances under international law and IMHO all allegations of torture must be investigated and criminally punished no matter "whom" is doing the torturing. The United States prosecuted Japanese interrogators for “waterboarding” U.S. prisoners during World War II, or it that something else you were unaware of sir.........

    A staggering map of the 54 countries that reportedly participated in the CIA’s rendition program - from 2013 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ias-rendition-program/?utm_term=.986c8aa0cd50
     
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