Shall not be infringed, what does that mean?

[Hoji]

Aw hell

Sorry Vaq. Quite often I am completely incapable of keeping quiet when bullshit is being spewed.( not ones service, but the idea that we need to give up a little more to make those that hate us and would jus as soon see us in boxcars somehow stop their creeping incrementalism )

 

[Davetex]

Serious question........do quad 50's come with a Q50 sticker on them?

 

[seeker_two]

seeker_two,

What do you want us to say about the old quad-50??
(All that I'll say is that I cannot afford to either buy or "feed" one on my pension, though "Ma Deuce" is my favorite FA weapon.)

yours, satx

Do they look better mounted in the bed of a Ford or a Chevy?.....

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[RoadRunner]

Not. One. More. Inch.


Fûck anyone who wants to give it to them.

I agree!!

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Ole cowboy,

Pardon me for pointing out that you've gone from FOOLISHNESS to IDIOTIC NONSENSE in you posts.

I did my time in the mess to but I don't go around bragging about it, much less being SILLY enough to suggest that it was even close to the most important and/or seminal event of my 71 years.
(The loss of my much beloved "VK" to acute leukemia, just short of her 31st birthday, was harder on me than all of my tours OCONUS combined.)

Also, in 2018 I don't know even ONE hater of RVN vets or ANY vets for that matter, outside of the small minority of "violent peace advocates" of the FAR LEFT of the DIMocRATS Party.
(Talk about an oxymoron!!)

ImVho, you owe "Hoji" a sincere & heartfelt apology for your hateful words.

yours, satx
USAMPC, Retired

FIRST lets get something STRAIGHT, no brag, GOT IT! Just examples of things that impacted my life in a positive way.

Silly and idiotic that I said the most important seminal event in my life! So you failed to learn and take away those lessons. Granted those lessons I did not know or understand until later in life, but I feel sad for you that you left them behind. They came to me time and time again as I built software, which you have used and prob 99+% of the folks on here. It was a STRONG influence on my career as an engineer. It changed and made me do things different.

Me apologize to him. I did not attack him, he attacked me, he could have carried on a rational conversation but did not chose to do so, he has no idea where I stand never bothered to even ask, just attacked.

To attack another brother in arms is WRONG, you just did and so did he so I will not say bad about you, nor him since he said or at least implied he was a veteran.

I have traveled a lot in my military and post military career, all over the US, racing up over 2 million air miles. If you think for one min that RVN vets are welcome across this land you are dead wrong. What is different is that then they were vocal, today little is said, bu attitude screams volumes. Texas and some of the southern states are most welcoming, and most rural areas. The folks from those days are alive and well.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Sorry Vaq. Quite often I am completely incapable of keeping quiet when bullshit is being spewed.( not ones service, but the idea that we need to give up a little more to make those that hate us and would jus as soon see us in boxcars somehow stop their creeping incrementalism )

Would YOU or anyone quote me on that please.

Suggest you and some others read what I have wrote and spend maybe a min thinking on it and if you have a question of me, ASK!

I read where you were a soldier, I respect that and will not challenge you further and I wish you only the best...

 

[RoadRunner]

Serious question........do quad 50's come with a Q50 sticker on them?

No.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Can't we just talk more about the quad-.50's?

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NO, start another thread!

 

[RoadRunner]

Do they look better mounted in the bed of a Ford or a Chevy?.....

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IMO, Chevy.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

OK folks, gonna ask AGAIN:

Where is the line in the sand, where is the "inch".

Until the gun community comes up with a coherent narrative we are doing nothing but losing battle after battle.

We must stand united on a definable front and at that time we can say NO MORE!

No you cannot take my gun away, No you cannot tax me on its possession , No I will not register it, No you will not limit the shape of my stock, my grip or whether or not it has a bayonet lug, nor the number of rounds in my magazine, No you will not encumber or infringe upon my right(s) as given me by my creator...

 

[Hoji]

Would YOU or anyone quote me on that please.

Suggest you and some others read what I have wrote and spend maybe a min thinking on it and if you have a question of me, ASK!

I read where you were a soldier, I respect that and will not challenge you further and I wish you only the best...

I have never claimed, or suggested, that I am .mil, past or present.

I have been paid to carry a gun in shitty places and have seen some pretty messed up things in my travels.

“Shall not be infringed” means just that.

You are suggesting in your post that there are things one does not “need” in regards to the 2nd Amendment and that by having the “all or nothing” mentality we will just lose.

We have been giving ground long enough. See the cake reference on compromise if you have not already seen it and that is what you are dealing with.

It is not the Bill of Needs.

Give them nothing.

 

[Kar98]

The coherent, unified stance is: not another effing inch. All the compromising and giving a little to keep the rest has led to keeping on giving for decades and ending up with less.

 

[Charlie]

I'm with the group that favors absolutely no more infringement upon our rights to own and carry firearms! No one will ever posses any of my firearms unless I sell or trade them or pass them on to my children and grandchildren.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Ole Cowboy,

Unless/until you NAME anyone who wants to own a nuke (other than a few more sovereign nations & terrorist organizations, OCONUS), you will continue to LOOK clueless, MORONIC & SILLY in the extreme.
CAN you NAME any such person in the USA??
Or shall we "persons of reasonably normal IQ" continue to laugh AT your nonsense??

yours, satx

Right in this very thread someone said they would if they could afford it or words to that affect.

But what is moronic and silly is your attempt to skew the point. When folks starting saying any and all then that begs the question, where is the line drawn or is there NO line, seems like most on here do not want a line, nothing off limits..'cept we already have a line drawn by the govt, so the argument that any and all becomes mute. You not a dumb guy, just trying to pile on and be an attacker, sorry BOYS..don't play out of your league.

So how about YOU answer the question I continue to ask: Where is the line in the sand, what is "not one more inch"... what is the inch?

Try rational discussion and not personal attacks and name calling or thread derailment...

 

[RoadRunner]

OK folks, gonna ask AGAIN:

Where is the line in the sand, where is the "inch".

Until the gun community comes up with a coherent narrative we are doing nothing but losing battle after battle.

We must stand united on a definable front and at that time we can say NO MORE!

No you cannot take my gun away, No you cannot tax me on its possession , No I will not register it, No you will not limit the shape of my stock, my grip or whether or not it has a bayonet lug, nor the number of rounds in my magazine, No you will not encumber or infringe upon my right(s) as given me by my creator...

I will try to say this so that you can understand. 'Not one more inch' means give them NOTHING more. Now if you can't understand that ..................

 

[TxStetson]

You gonna share?

 

[Ole Cowboy]

I have never claimed, or suggested, that I am .mil, past or present.

I have been paid to carry a gun in shitty places and have seen some pretty messed up things in my travels.

“Shall not be infringed” means just that.

You are suggesting in your post that there are things one does not “need” in regards to the 2nd Amendment and that by having the “all or nothing” mentality we will just lose.

We have been giving ground long enough. See the cake reference on compromise if you have not already seen it and that is what you are dealing with.

It is not the Bill of Needs.

Give them nothing.

I assumed that by your comments on war...my mistake...

OK, we are getting somewhere. What I am saying where is the line between NEED and WANT. Can I justify under the umbrella of the 2nd RKBA that I should have and own a current encumbered weapon (Full Auto), therefore it's a need, not a want. Those battle have long been lost and I see no path to restore them as much as I want a Thompson (because dad carried one in WWII). I will not likely ever buy one since the one I would want would a US issued and seen WWII duty and in the Pacfic.

This brings us to our current state with the talk of age 21, bump stocks, hi capacity mags and a few other things

IN MY VIEW: I got my first gun at age 5, bought my FIRST gun at age 9, I think it was a British .303 Jungle Carbine, by age 15 I literally had enough to fill the bed of a pickup truck that I had bought or traded for. Where do you think I stand on age 21 restriction!!!!! I lived rural on a ranch and every friend I had owned guns, and most women to include young and old and knew how to use them out in E Tex snake country.

Hi Cap, got more 30's than 20's.

Bump stocks: Never owned, does not fit my gun profile, if you chose, that is your choice, there my concern is (new) Las Vegas and few folks outside of a minority in the gun community know what a bump stock is, so what they do know is just what the Fake media tells them. Am I willing to fall on my sword over a BS, not me personally, but we as a collective community are WE willing...my bet is prob not. Now we run into the "NOT an INCH" problem.

Are you getting what I am saying. There are minefields in not and inch thinking, but if we can all agree then we can take a stand and I will follow the crowd, but till we have a coherent message we are not unified.

I asked my 3 closest gun buddies. These are gun folks from the git go, own them, shoot them, buy, trade, life long, they are all in their 60's
What is your opinion on Bump stocks, all 3 echo me, thumbs down, but if the community as a WHOLE stands for then so do they,

 

[RoadRunner]

I assumed that by your comments on war...my mistake...

OK, we are getting somewhere. What I am saying where is the line between NEED and WANT. Can I justify under the umbrella of the 2nd RKBA that I should have and own a current encumbered weapon (Full Auto), therefore it's a need, not a want. Those battle have long been lost and I see no path to restore them as much as I want a Thompson (because dad carried one in WWII). I will not likely ever buy one since the one I would want would a US issued and seen WWII duty and in the Pacfic.

This brings us to our current state with the talk of age 21, bump stocks, hi capacity mags and a few other things

IN MY VIEW: I got my first gun at age 5, bought my FIRST gun at age 9, I think it was a British .303 Jungle Carbine, by age 15 I literally had enough to fill the bed of a pickup truck that I had bought or traded for. Where do you think I stand on age 21 restriction!!!!! I lived rural on a ranch and every friend I had owned guns, and most women to include young and old and knew how to use them out in E Tex snake country.

Hi Cap, got more 30's than 20's.

Bump stocks: Never owned, does not fit my gun profile, if you chose, that is your choice, there my concern is (new) Las Vegas and few folks outside of a minority in the gun community know what a bump stock is, so what they do know is just what the Fake media tells them. Am I willing to fall on my sword over a BS, not me personally, but we as a collective community are WE willing...my bet is prob not. Now we run into the "NOT an INCH" problem.

Are you getting what I am saying. There are minefields in not and inch thinking, but if we can all agree then we can take a stand and I will follow the crowd, but till we have a coherent message we are not unified.

I asked my 3 closest gun buddies. These are gun folks from the git go, own them, shoot them, buy, trade, life long, they are all in their 60's
What is your opinion on Bump stocks, all 3 echo me, thumbs down, but if the community as a WHOLE stands for then so do they,

You still don't get it do you? I put it as simple as I could, hoping that you would understand. This will be my last attempt:

"not another inch" means give them NOTHING else!

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[Kar98]

You need to quit over thinking and splitting bunnies. Where do we stand? Here. Where's the line? Right where I'm standing. Will I move? Not one inch. Do you want anything? Fight for it. Could I give a crap about bump stocks and under 21s? Nope. Will I offer these up as a compromise because _I_ don't need/want them? Nope. Not. One. Inch.
I don't know how this is not getting through to you. All this "I'm an avid hunter, but...!"

 

[Vaquero]

The poll results aren't sinking in either.