Holster cant for draw or concealment?

[Higgins909]

I think this fits in the CHL area... I've been carrying my shield 9mm in a CYA IWB holster in the 3 o clock~ position. I have 0 cant as of now, but wonder if it would be better to add some cant to help with concealment. (My shirt loves to grab onto the back corner of the grip, esp since adding my talon grip) I did this with my g17 in a hide it deep IWB holster in the same position and it hides better, but the draw is a little odd.

What do you think?
Higgins909

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I'm a lefty.
Carry at ~9:30-10 o'clock.

I prefer a forward cant to all my holsters.
Everything seems to feel better.

 

[Bozz10mm]

I carry IWB at about the 4 O'clock- 4:30 position, I prefer a forward cant. The forward cant seems to help reduce the printing of the grip and just feels smoother on the draw.

 

[oldag]

OWB, 3:00. Some 10, some 15 degree cant.

Not sure it really makes a big difference. Besides, 99.999% of the public doesn't notice printing anyhow.

 

[Byrd666]

It all depends on what your comfortable carrying and, or, drawing from. Like oldag, I've got holsters in various degrees of cant, for various pistols or wardrobe. My most often worn is a hybrid between the pant and belt with a standard FBI (15 degree forward) cant.

 

[F350-6]

Quick draw and concealment don't go together. It's about finding balance on what works in your every day life. Once you find the balance, practice and get comfortable with it.

Personally, I prefer a cant. You can close your eyes and still touch your ear. Drawing a weapons is much the same, cant or not. It's all about familiarity and it becoming a part of you. Retention holsters work much the same way.

 

[oldag]

It's all about familiarity and it becoming a part of you.

Lot of truth there.

 

[Charlie]

Printing is a non issue. You can print with a cant or a straight up vertical. Makes no difference!

 

[easy rider]

Drawing with a forward cant feels more natural to me. I carry 3-4:00.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I have 0 cant as of now, but wonder if it would be better to add some cant to help with concealment...but the draw is a little odd.

What do you think?
Higgins909

Try it out and see if you like the results for concealment. Then, practice your draw until it either becomes second nature or you find it won’t work for you.

 

[jjkukla]

I use holsters with and without cant, and I found it has been easier for me to draw WITHOUT a cant. I have tendonitis and manipulating my wrist to draw from a canted holster can sometimes be awkward and painful. Whereas keeping my wrist inline with my forearm makes a vertical draw less stressful on the joint and tendon.
Take a minute and do an image search of "ulnar deviation" and you'll see what I mean.

 

[MikePotts]

As my arthritic wrists get worse, I sympathise with jjkuklae but still find that some degree of forward rake works best for me to prevent 'printing' in a non-permissive environment.

 

[BillRedding]

To the OP:
Get one of those polymer "rotary" type holsters (such as IMI Defense "Roto-Rig," or a Cytac)...the ones with 2 serrated disks as the "connector" between holster and belt clip & with the "button" retention system for the gun itself. You can adjust the cant 360 degrees -- find the exact angle most comfortable for you. IIRC, Blackhawk Serpa holsters allow for cant adjustments, but nowhere near the the angles rotary type holsters have.
Also, with the button retention systems these polymer holsters have, your gun won't fall out accidentally no matter what position your body is in (like that FBI guy a while back who dropped his dancing at that party).
I need a certain cant myself as I carry cross-draw, so the most comfortable angle for a smooth/natural draw is essential. I carry openly though, so there's no outer clothing to lift up for me in order to draw. While a good/positive retention system is an absolute MUST for an OCer (a simple friction-fit won't do!), were I carrying concealed, being able to adjust the cant to a specific angle AND have positive retention would still be very useful (to me)...
Most of the very few "standard" (typical, traditional) holsters that DO have can't adjustments are quite limited re: cant angles and if those few angles won't work for you, you have no other options...with a "rotary" holster you have MANY cant options -- one is SURE to work for you!
Good luck,
-- BR
(President, Open Carry El Paso)

 

[toddnjoyce]

What do you think?
Higgins909

Any feedback?

 

[TexasBrandon]

9:00 cant for me IWB. Has worked for years no problem and feels better. Without the cant it didn't feel as natural or comfortable.

 

[oljames3]

I carry my S&W M&P M2.0 9mm 5inch the same way whether openly (my default) or concealed. I prefer a forward cant of about 5 degrees. I use a Safariland 7TS ALS holster and the Quick Lock System. The QLS and the Safariland belt slide that I use both have slots that enable me to adjust the cant. Almost straight up works best for me.

 

[Higgins909]

I've been testing out full forwards cant of my CYA holster, for my Shield 9mm. I'm not sure how much cant there really is, but it does help with the grip of the gun grabbing my shirt. Draw is a little odd but manageable. I have my glock 17 at a further cant. I think my glock might conceal better though. I'm not sure if the holster hides it a bit deeper (Hide it Deep brand) or what. I recently bought a shirt and am guessing all my other shirts are boys and my new shirt is a men's Although it was the smallest size I could find, it fits me length wise way better... Maybe it's how button up shirts work?

I have a universal OWB plastic pancake style holster for my g17. It didn't conceal very well under my old shirts, so I labeled it a Range holster or if I ever decide to open carry. This also makes me unsure of any OWB holsters for concealed carry. I'm very tempted to open carry, the next time I mow the lawn.

 

[benenglish]

with the button retention systems these polymer holsters have, your gun won't fall out accidentally no matter what position your body is in

Interesting. I'd appreciate an example or two of holsters with button retention systems you think are suitable for concealed carry. I've found nothing of that sort that I like.

 

[easy rider]

I am past the point of wanting to do back flips while dancing that I need that much retention

 

[toddnjoyce]

Interesting. I'd appreciate an example or two of holsters with button retention systems you think are suitable for concealed carry. I've found nothing of that sort that I like.

Here’s one I’ve actually used for CC with a full-size double stack 9mm. Adjust your wardrobe for the method of carry.