Disarmed by the Police

[Jon Payne]

Thank you for using the right words. It's just a personal pet peeve but I hate it when people say "insurance card" as if that were the only type of proof of financial responsibility.

Old habits die hard. I also wrote "Odor of an Alcoholic Beverage" in certain PC Affidavits lol.

 

[pharmaco]

Make sure when an officer approaches your vehicle during a traffic stop you have your DL, LTC, and proof of financial responsibility in hand. Don't be surprised if the officer elects to disarm you until the traffic stop is over. Be calm and courteous. No one likes getting stopped.

+1
I always keep my wrists glued to the steering wheel when in Austin and keep a smile on my face as well.

 

[AustinN4]

That's the reason I never blame "the police" in general when I hear of misconduct from one or a group of police officers. I know there are bad apples in every barrel.

Best post in this thread!

 

[BRD@66]

Well shucks. You guys are cooling down just as I was getting ready to post IBTL. Never mind.

 

[pharmaco]

Well shucks. You guys are cooling down just as I was getting ready to post IBTL. Never mind.

I figured there's no sense in arguing with someone who thinks it's their job to police the assholes of the world.

That's not a job I would want. Lol

 

[avvidclif]

61 years of driving, with the occasional stop, and one thing stands out: treat the officer with immediate respect, and that's what you'll get back.

Bingo.

 

[avvidclif]

I figured there's no sense in arguing with someone who thinks it's their job to police the assholes of the world.

That's not a job I would want. Lol

It is their job. Would someone not an asshole commit a crime????

 

[pharmaco]

It is their job. Would someone not an ******* commit a crime????

Hahaha, fair play

 

[sharkey]

sharkey,

C'mon, you don't see some folks think a small percentage of L.E.O.'s are over the top in their exercise of law enforcement?

I think the vast majority of L.E.O.'s are rock solid, but a very few should not be in L.E. as they're not psychologically fit.

Whether they recognize it or not, some enter L.E. with a secret chip on their shoulders hoping someone will exhibit enough foolish behavior they can 'cuff and stuff' em. This provides job satisfaction for these few. Ugly job satisfaction.

Power mad and perhaps not even self aware enough to see it in themselves, as introspection might be too much a threat to their ego, but simply think, 'I'm always in the right' and you non-L.E. must respect my Authori-tie!

Your whole post is a backhanded comment towards LEOs as you want to make it seem like you support them. I never said LEOs don't make mistakes, I made plenty. Nor are they always right but that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about how officers respond differently to a..holes as opposed to a stop where the violator is respectful.
It is what it is, you don't have to like it but you damn sure better do it when stopped by police. I am not always right but 99% of the time on a call I was. See when you are polite to a..holes they take that as a sign of weakness. Again, of you have never done it, you lack the experience to understand. If some here would check their ego at the keypad, they might learn some chit, but no, you,'ll have it all figured out.
As has been repeated, don't be a *ick and you won't be treated like one 98% of the time.

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[Frank59]

Your whole post is a backhanded comment towards LEOs as you want to make it seem like you support them. I never said LEOs don't make mistakes, I made plenty. Nor are they always right but that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about how officers respond differently to a..holes as opposed to a stop where the violator is respectful.
It is what it is, you don't have to like it but you damn sure better do it when stopped by police. I am not always right but 99% of the time on a call I was. See when you are polite to a..holes they take that as a sign of weakness. Again, of you have never done it, you lack the experience to understand. If some here would check their ego at the keypad, they might learn some chit, but no, you,'ll have it all figured out.
As has been repeated, don't be a *ick and you won't be treated like one 98% of the time.

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He's right about trying to be polite to a prick! It's only going to empower that person and can quickly escalate into something bad. I know the nay sayers are gonna say same can be said by being aggressive towards someone being a jerk is no different. It is what it is!!

 

[Big Dipper]

What I find so sad about the turn of this thread is that there are so many laws that we are all “guilty” of something and that it is up to the “discretion” of the police/prosecutors whether or not we will be prosecuted (persecuted) for some relatively minor infraction of one of these myriad laws.

 

[pharmaco]

. See when you are polite to a..holes they take that as a sign of weakness.

This explains a lot

 

[lightflyer1]

Make sure when an officer approaches your vehicle during a traffic stop you have your DL, LTC, and proof of financial responsibility in hand. Don't be surprised if the officer elects to disarm you until the traffic stop is over. Be calm and courteous. No one likes getting stopped.

I was taught not to get any of that stuff out until asked to. Just turn off the car and turn on the interior light and place hands on the steering wheel and wait. Better not to be seen fumbling around like you might be hiding something or searching for something (gun). The first words out of my mouth are "I have a CHL and I am armed. What do you want me to do next?". Then I follow instructions.

 

[Younggun]

I don’t want them to be surprised so I wave my firearm out the window and scream “I HAVE A GUN” to make sure they can hear.




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[jar]

So I'm misunderstanding his post saying he wish he had the opportunity to pull me over?

Are you saying I misinterpreted this post:


It seems to me that Sharkey was fairly clear in stating that he would cause problems for people based on their attitude alone.
That's not in the Texas penal code.

Are you sure?
Which story are you talking about?

Please quote that story

Please re-quote the last post I made and bold the sections where you think I'm wrong or misinterpreted something.

I do not doubt it is clear to you. That is the problem in a nutshell.

 

[oldag]

He's right about trying to be polite to a prick! It's only going to empower that person and can quickly escalate into something bad. I know the nay sayers are gonna say same can be said by being aggressive towards someone being a jerk is no different. It is what it is!!

Sorry, I have seen too many times where professionalism avoided/defused situations.

 

[pharmaco]

I do not doubt it is clear to you. That is the problem in a nutshell.

Thanks for dodging the requests, Beto.
I'll just take that as confirmation that you realize you're making an indefensible argument.

Don't run yer mouth if yer skeered to support your arguments

 

[oldag]

Make sure when an officer approaches your vehicle during a traffic stop you have your DL, LTC, and proof of financial responsibility in hand. Don't be surprised if the officer elects to disarm you until the traffic stop is over. Be calm and courteous. No one likes getting stopped.

Actually, I think every LEO I have known has said just to keep the hands on the wheel. Not to go reaching around for anything until asked to do so by the officer. They said they can get nervous when someone is reaching into the glovebox (insurance), etc. before they are up at the car and can see exactly what is going on.

I always wait and ask for permission to get wallet, etc.

 

[sharkey]

What I find so sad about the turn of this thread is that there are so many laws that we are all “guilty” of something and that it is up to the “discretion” of the police/prosecutors whether or not we will be prosecuted (persecuted) for some relatively minor infraction of one of these myriad laws.

True their are lil BS laws but the cops I know, myself included, wouldn't hammer you on them. I would use no LP light as a reason to stop but would never cite someone for that.......unless you were a well you know.

I base that on working for a city of 125K, a suburb of a huge city and working for a year as a city Marshal in a major city. Nonin the country, I have 0 experience how they handle their business.

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[sharkey]

Sorry, I have seen too many times where professionalism avoided/defused situations.

In what environment? On a street with 5 bangers in a car at 1A? You seem rather agreeable of the 3 here so I don't get why you have such a hard time with this? Even they got professional treatment until their attitude changed. You know who is really polite? Those on parole. They are also very dangerous. Check a ASP video from 2 weeks ago where two LAPD dropped a banger on parole on a stop that goes bad. He gave 0 indicators he was gonna pull a gun and start shooting.

You don't know what you don't know.

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