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  • Mohawk600

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    Then I suggest you not watch any 9/11 video where people were so desperate to get away from the heat they jumped, or the video of FDNY inside WTC and all of the thuds and splat from the people who jumped landing nearby, because the NZ shooting was a road runner cartoon compared to that.
    only saying it was disturbing....did you not find it to be so? I have seen plenty of 911 jumpers
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    Mohawk600

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    Then I suggest you not watch any 9/11 video where people were so desperate to get away from the heat they jumped, or the video of FDNY inside WTC and all of the thuds and splat from the people who jumped landing nearby, because the NZ shooting was a road runner cartoon compared to that.
    It was also a demonstration of how effective deliberate semi auto fire can be......
     

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    only saying it was disturbing....did you not find it to be so? I have seen plenty of 911 jumpers

    No it was not "one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen". As I pointed out the 9/11 stuff was more disturbing, and a lot of the IED and AFG/IRQ war videos war more disturbing. Even the Zapruder film was more disturbing.
     

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    Books can be wordy because they are, well, books. Videos should be different. Unfortunately, nobody told this guy.

    At the 6-minute mark the narrator decided that reciting the Gettysburg Address, in full, was a reasonable way to introduce the video, promising to cover the story "in a brief time frame." I laughed out loud at that one.

    Yeah, maybe he is able to reasonably hypothesize that Podesta was responsible for the New Zealand shooting. I doubt it but maybe.

    He can't get to actually talking about the news until he spends more than ten minutes rambling, even explaining the symbolism of the graphic he displays during his rambling. Then, he starts talking about how there may have been a shooting. Maybe. He actually says he has a video of the way the shooting was faked but he's been shadow-banned from Twitter so, of course, he can't actually show it to anyone right now because, I guess, there are no alternative media outlets that would not censor.

    He claims he'll release the video later in the week. Yeah, really.

    Then he goes into nice, off-handed descriptions of heads being chopped off.

    Then the majority of his discussion is a bunch of chan screenshots with careful analysis. Remind me...How much analysis does any chan post deserve?

    Then he reads some Trump tweets and misreads parts of it, then goes with explaining the code involved in how many ellipsis marks Trump uses. Seriously - the guy says that ellipsis marks in Trump tweets are a code.

    When he finally gets to the analysis of the shooting at ~38 minutes in, he immediately makes a couple of factual errors that anyone who has seen the video can identify.

    I bailed.

    Whoever this Q-Anon movement is, I don't think it's worth my time to figure out. I've been down chan-based rabbit holes before back when I had too much time on my hands and found them amusing.

    If he releases video of the rehearsal for the attack proving it was all a hoax, feel free to post back. Otherwise, I suggest to my fellow TGT denizens that the video isn't worth the time commitment.

    Not by a long shot.

    Just a sample of the Q research,
    https://youtu.be/iYLwjkHjhlw

    https://youtu.be/S0t16AawtUA
     

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    Didn't read to well as the author was Shaun Ragland

    You posted it. You used it as an example. You seem to think it has merit. You obviously have a poor understanding of 5.56.


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    You would have a better chance getting people to check out these things if you gave direct links to pages, and if you posted shorter videos. While these 2 videos were much shorter than previous ones, chances are that very few people will watch a 20 video. We all seem to have short attention spans, or ADHD, or Hey! Look a shiny object.
     

    cherok2e

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    You posted it. You used it as an example. You seem to think it has merit. You obviously have a poor understanding of 5.56.


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    What I concede to the information available. You Have a problem with available facts, dispute them, argue with them, don't come after me unless you just troll this site to see if I post so you can have a comment.

    Facts are facts you don't like them or don't agree that's your problem don't look at them..
     

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    Just a sample of the Q research
    Against my better judgement, I actually looked up "Q".

    Q is the 4-Chan tripcode of the person who first posted the seeds of this fantasy world. I knew 4-Chan and was heavily involved long before the site rose to a small measure of public recognition. The doctoral theses being written on the influence of 4-Chan notwithstanding, things that start there are generally not worth anyone's time. I left it behind a long time ago.

    When it comes to the Q Anon world of conspiracy theory weirdness, I'm out.
     

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    Against my better judgement, I actually looked up "Q".

    Q is the 4-Chan tripcode of the person who first posted the seeds of this fantasy world. I knew 4-Chan and was heavily involved long before the site rose to a small measure of public recognition. The doctoral theses being written on the influence of 4-Chan notwithstanding, things that start there are generally not worth anyone's time. I left it behind a long time ago.

    When it comes to the Q Anon world of conspiracy theory weirdness, I'm out.


    If you looked up Qanon on 4-chan you didn't find Q. You found some imposter because Q only posts on 8-chan. This Q is associated closely with POTUS with several proofs to back it up.
    Right now just hope he we can distance POTUS from the Epstein trials going on now. Some others have denigrated Q and the Jeffery Epstein and Allison Mack, NXIVM, trials going on now with another witch hunt trying to implicate President Trump from the past.
    Qanon is not a conspiracy but some who are trying to help the President and get him reelected in 2020.
    However, it is 'to each his own'.
     

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    What I concede to the information available. You Have a problem with available facts, dispute them, argue with them, don't come after me unless you just troll this site to see if I post so you can have a comment.

    Facts are facts you don't like them or don't agree that's your problem don't look at them..

    You are posting crap information as evidence to support your claims.

    I pointed out an obvious error that most on this forum would also know to be obvious by virtue of having some experience with firearms, and 5.56 specifically.

    If you are willing to post crap info you should at least be willing to defend it, which you are r fusing to do. Either that, or you are refusing to admit that one of the basic principles being used to support the narrative you posted (regardless of who wrote it originally) is based on incorrect information. Instead of admitting it’s crap information or providing some kind of contrary evidence you say “Don’t ask me, I didn’t write it”. It sounds like you are shielding yourself from anything that could discredit the reality you’ve chosen to live in.


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    If you looked up Qanon on 4-chan you didn't find Q. You found some imposter because Q only posts on 8-chan.
    That legitimately sounds like I made a mistake. My apologies.

    Now I have to ask myself if the postings of any person who chooses to use a chan (any chan) as their platform are worth the effort of chasing down.
     

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    You would have a better chance getting people to check out these things if you gave direct links to pages, and if you posted shorter videos. While these 2 videos were much shorter than previous ones, chances are that very few people will watch a 20 video. We all seem to have short attention spans, or ADHD, or Hey! Look a shiny object.

    You want facts, you want proof, he wants this, they want/need that. The evidence is there it depends on how much you need to see.
    The Epstein trial is trying to drag the President into their issues. We are just defending it. The X in the top right stops the video whenever you have had enough. These were 30 what can I say.
    For us we are trying to get the American people behind the President any way we can. We have a thing about what happened to these kids.
    I ask myself if it's worth being here as the crap is deep for chat.
     

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    Probably not. Most people here are pretty reasonable and are more concerned with reality than conspiracy.

    Heck, most wont even cave if you accuse them of having their heads in the sand.


    “If you don’t believe this conspiracy you are blinding yourself” just isn’t enough evidence. If that’s all it took we would be screaming about Trump/Russia collusion.


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    cherok2e

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    You are posting crap information as evidence to support your claims.

    I pointed out an obvious error that most on this forum would also know to be obvious by virtue of having some experience with firearms, and 5.56 specifically.

    If you are willing to post crap info you should at least be willing to defend it, which you are r fusing to do. Either that, or you are refusing to admit that one of the basic principles being used to support the narrative you posted (regardless of who wrote it originally) is based on incorrect information. Instead of admitting it’s crap information or providing some kind of contrary evidence you say “Don’t ask me, I didn’t write it”. It sounds like you are shielding yourself from anything that could discredit the reality you’ve chosen to live in.


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    Tell you what, you haven't given any information disputing the facts that were posted you're relying on what others know, so let's try to get off the direct attacks and work on the facts.
    You started with attacks on me not the vide. I posted something that would support the video cam scenes that show a lack of spent cartridges, holes in walls/floor and blood.
    Now if you know something specific that is in error then spit it out otherwise leave it alone.
     

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    That legitimately sounds like I made a mistake. My apologies.

    Now I have to ask myself if the postings of any person who chooses to use a chan (any chan) as their platform are worth the effort of chasing down.

    Qanon has, can't describe how, but Q has made it so he is the only one who can post on this chan. Something tied to the President creating the Emergency Alert system POTUS will use.
     

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    Probably not. Most people here are pretty reasonable and are more concerned with reality than conspiracy.

    Heck, most wont even cave if you accuse them of having their heads in the sand.


    “If you don’t believe this conspiracy you are blinding yourself” just isn’t enough evidence. If that’s all it took we would be screaming about Trump/Russia collusion.


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    First of all some of us know 'collusion' does not exist in any judicial writing. The use of the word as a criminal charge is a non issue. The use of conspiracy is also a non issue as there are trials on both coast having to do with this criminality.
    The Epstein trial is trying to involve POTUS and the Mack trial is a songbird that may implicate Adam Schiff. Conspiracy, call it what you want.
     
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