The Untold History of the NRA

[kenboyles72]

Here's a bit of a history behind the NRA, it's not very pretty. I use to believe the NRA was on our side, not any more and this just supports my dislike of that organization.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-untold-history-of-the-nra-part-1/

 

[RoadRunner]

Well, young man, you have done it now! It won't be long until the NRA loyalists will be here to straighten your ass out. And I don't blame them, this is blasphemy.

 

[45tex]

Wow, just Wow. Take the time to read this article

 

[baboon]

Unlike the dead Bush I'm not throwing away my life membership!

 

[Texasjack]

It's not about being loyal or disloyal. Like it or not, the NRA has been a powerful force in national politics.

I understand why people are frustrated with NRA. I'm frustrated as well - particularly with the bunch currently in control. But I caution you that letting that frustration become hate makes you an opponent of a group that is still basically on our side. We have enough enemies - we can't afford to turn on each other.

When Ronald Reagan was president, he had a rule that "Republicans don't speak badly about other Republicans." He kept their fighting behind closed doors and kept them together to hold onto his agenda. Now look at what's going on in Washington. Republicans bad-mouthing Trump or other conservative politicians, some dropping out of the party all together. They're doing nothing but helping the damned socialists.

We need to spend our fighting efforts against the socialists and crappy politicians. Yes, work for change in the NRA or even find other groups you're more willing to support. Just don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Remember: Private ownership of firearms is not compatible with socialism.

 

[RoadRunner]

It's not about being loyal or disloyal. Like it or not, the NRA has been a powerful force in national politics.

I understand why people are frustrated with NRA. I'm frustrated as well - particularly with the bunch currently in control. But I caution you that letting that frustration become hate makes you an opponent of a group that is still basically on our side. We have enough enemies - we can't afford to turn on each other.

When Ronald Reagan was president, he had a rule that "Republicans don't speak badly about other Republicans." He kept their fighting behind closed doors and kept them together to hold onto his agenda. Now look at what's going on in Washington. Republicans bad-mouthing Trump or other conservative politicians, some dropping out of the party all together. They're doing nothing but helping the damned socialists.

We need to spend our fighting efforts against the socialists and crappy politicians. Yes, work for change in the NRA or even find other groups you're more willing to support. Just don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Remember: Private ownership of firearms is not compatible with socialism.

Did you read the article? If not, you may want to. If you did, you may want to read it again.

 

[birddog]

One thing my old man taught me was you don't have to "like" or "agree" with someone/something if it's beneficial and serves a purpose that aligns with your needs, beliefs or ideals.

Think about the ramifications of the NRA losing members and influence.

 

[RoadRunner]

One thing my old man taught me was you don't have to "like" or "agree" with someone/something if it's beneficial and serves a purpose that aligns with your needs, beliefs or ideals.

Think about the ramifications of the NRA losing members and influence.

Does the NRA align with your needs, beliefs or ideals?

 

[Jack Ryan]

Did you read the article? If not, you may want to. If you did, you may want to read it again.

Must be true. Ya found it on the internet.

 

[RoadRunner]

Must be true. Ya found it on the internet.

Are you saying that it is not true? If so please show us your sources.

 

[birddog]

edited

 

[gshayd]

That history is not untold or unknown. It wasn't until May 21 1977 that the NRA became more than just an organization devoted to marksmanship training. Known as the Revolt in Cincinnati. It is time for another revolution in the NRA. It's always easier to stand outside and chunk rocks.

 

[birddog]

It's not about being loyal or disloyal. Like it or not, the NRA has been a powerful force in national politics.

I understand why people are frustrated with NRA. I'm frustrated as well - particularly with the bunch currently in control. But I caution you that letting that frustration become hate makes you an opponent of a group that is still basically on our side. We have enough enemies - we can't afford to turn on each other.

We need to spend our fighting efforts against the socialists and crappy politicians. Yes, work for change in the NRA or even find other groups you're more willing to support. Just don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Remember: Private ownership of firearms is not compatible with socialism is a primary target at the top of the list of the democrats broad agenda.

 

[RoadRunner]

I get so damn tired of having explain the obvious. Hence the reason I won't.

Re-read my post. As many times as it takes

If people would get off their asses and take an active/proactive role in fighting for their rights, a lot of our nations ills wouldnt exist. Simple fix.

A simple yes or no would be a good enough answer, no need to explain anything.

 

[birddog]

Well, young man, you have done it now! It won't be long until the NRA loyalists will be here to straighten your ass out. And I don't blame them, this is blasphemy.

RR,

I'd like to hear your opinions regarding the NRA; pro, con, including relevant factors and the reasoning that led you to that point of view and how you perceive the NRA today.

Youve asked a few members to defend, elaborate or expound on comments they've made about satisfaction/dissatisfaction regarding various aspects of the NRA. The dialogue and commentary (for the most part) typically culminates in direct/indirect implied opinions/facts, hearsay or generalized blankets statements by that person regarding the question of support of the NRA; yes/no/conditional.

In previous discussions, Ive expressed my opinion on this matter, succinctly and unambiguously. And gave the reasons for it. Perspective and opinion of the NRA and it's misteps, poor executive leadership, financial mismanagement, and actions they've taken that's detrimental to their will and desires of their members, non-member constituency and industry supporting gun owners.

 

[birddog]

A simple yes or no would be a good enough answer, no need to explain anything.

Requesting a simple yes/no answer is reasonable. It isnt resonable when the question has already been answered indirectly, but clearly. Your insistence suggests you have an agenda in asking the question, a segue used as the premise to expound on the subject. I may be wrong at times interpreting motives and language as an outward manifestation of personality, but my tools dont make those mistakes. Ever

If this same discussion were taking place on an anti-gun or antifa online community, I have am absolutely certain that the vast majority of other members in their own mind would have answered the question you've asked repeatedly moments after reading my post.

This discussion is taking place on Texas Gun Talk, Not "Texas Gun Owners are Satan Worshiping Scoundrels Talk".

The last sentence in the comments you're refering answers your question.

 

[RoadRunner]

RR,

I'd like to hear your opinions regarding the NRA; pro, con, including relevant factors and the reasoning that led you to that point of view and how you perceive the NRA today.

Youve asked a few members to defend, elaborate or expound on comments they've made about satisfaction/dissatisfaction regarding various aspects of the NRA. The dialogue and commentary (for the most part) typically culminates in direct/indirect implied opinions/facts, hearsay or generalized blankets statements by that person regarding the question of support of the NRA; yes/no/conditional.

In previous discussions, Ive expressed my opinion on this matter, succinctly and unambiguously. And gave the reasons for it. Perspective and opinion of the NRA and it's misteps, poor executive leadership, financial mismanagement, and actions they've taken that's detrimental to their will and desires of their members, non-member constituency and industry supporting gun owners.

Again, the question was: Does the NRA align with your needs, beliefs or ideals? It appeared to me that that is what you were saying. I am not trying to argue with you, I just asked a simple question.

To answer your question, I have a very dim view of the NRA. They have been pushing anti-gun legislation since their inception. They had me fooled for a long time and I was a member for quite a few years but I finally saw them for what they are several years ago.

I have seen numerous posts here and in other places where people say that we need to fight to get them back on track. Back on track would mean to get rid of the corruption. And it would also mean for them to continue pushing anti-gun legislation. Since that is what they have ALWAYS done.


The sooner that people wake up to the truth about them the better off we will all be. They are very good at deceiving their members just like politicians are at deceiving the voters.

Nothing will change until they lose enough members. Then and only then will there be a change for the better. How much better? I don't know. I think that the organization needs to be either replaced or completely rebuilt.

ETA: When I say the NRA or 'they' I am talking about the BOD, not the members.

 

[birddog]

Again, the question was: Does the NRA align with your needs, beliefs or ideals? It appeared to me that that is what you were saying. I am not trying to argue with you, I just asked a simple question.

To answer your question, I have a very dim view of the NRA. They have been pushing anti-gun legislation since their inception. They had me fooled for a long time and I was a member for quite a few years but I finally saw them for what they are several years ago.

I have seen numerous posts here and in other places where people say that we need to fight to get them back on track. Back on track would mean to get rid of the corruption. And it would also mean for them to continue pushing anti-gun legislation. Since that is what they have ALWAYS done.

The sooner that people wake up to the truth about them the better off we will all be. They are very good at deceiving their members just like politicians are at deceiving the voters.

Nothing will change until they lose enough members. Then and only then will there be a change for the better. How much better? I don't know. I think that the organization needs to be either replaced or completely rebuilt.

ETA: When I say the NRA or 'they' I am talking about the BOD, not the members.

The bolded txt in your post implies that you already knew the answer to your question. Knowing the answer, your reasons for asking for a yes/no response raised questions of motive. Why ask if you already know?

Regarding the premise for your position, what are your sources for these supposed "bad acts" that led to your perspective and opinion?

Do you have a reputable source(s) that has a comprehensive list of the specific corrupt acts that have occured? Do you beleive the veracity and accuracy of the information you aquired that led to your position?

 

[Dawico]

I thought everyone knew the NRA wasn't started as a gun rights organization.

I mean oh no! My world is falling apart!

 

[Lonesome Dove]

I wrote them off after 30 years of good support.