For American gun owners, who will be our REAL choice in 2020?

[AustinN4]

The left along with a willful media is obfuscating everything. It is a propaganda campaign like we have never seen before. Some examples.

Illegal aliens are immigrants.

Semi automatic rifles are assault weapons or weapons of war.

Etc

And, unfortunately, it seems to be working with the general public and politicians.

 

[Younggun]

The left along with a willful media is obfuscating everything. It is a propaganda campaign like we have never seen before. Some examples.

Illegal aliens are immigrants.

Semi automatic rifles are assault weapons or weapons of war.

Etc

Calling out antisemitism is racist.

Islam is feminist.

The political division is a product of Trump, not the other way around.

Antifa is peaceful.




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[oldag]

Calling out antisemitism is racist.

Islam is feminist.

The political division is a product of Trump, not the other way around.

Antifa is peaceful.




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Ah, I see you have found the leftist "logic".

 

[Younggun]

Ah, I see you have found the leftist "logic".

Straight from the Ministry of Truth.


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[Renegade]

Calling out antisemitism is racist.

Islam is feminist.

The political division is a product of Trump, not the other way around.

Antifa is peaceful.

Michael Brown was murdered by the Police while surrendering with his hands up.

Stacy Brown had the election stolen from her.

Donald Trump is a white supremacist.

NRA is a domestic terrorist organization.

White males are the greatest threat to the country.

Almost every major issue is a massive lie.

It is like they saw Harry Reid lying about Mittens Taxes, and decided to expand the strategy to everything.

 

[Charlie]

Subscribed!

 

[sidebite252]

That is good to know. I agree with you. My position is although I am legally eligible to buy any gun I want, I do not want my name to be on any government lists. Someday, those lists will prove lethal.

 

[benenglish]

I also haven't heard that you couldn't gift a gun if UBC is passed.

Under HR8, the bill currently in Congress that sparks most of this discussion, gifts could only take place between family members and the definition of family member isn't very broad. I could not give you a gift of a gun without a background check, even though you're a member of my TGT family.

Draft UBC legislation has been drawn up by lots of people in lots of places, however. Some of that draft legislation is much more restrictive than HR8 and would prohibit most or all gifts.

Personally, I could live with a UBC law if it made NICs publicly available to check a person, wasn't linked to any particular firearm transfer, and required no checks when the seller is presented with proof of a prior and still current background check, e.g. showing an LTC when purchasing. That would completely divorce the background check process from any identifiable firearm or any particular transfer. It would be a check on the person, not the transfer. in fact, I'd be willing to bet that the most common uses of such a system would be pre-employment checks on job applicants, women checking out the status of men who are asking for their attention, and other innocuous inquiries.

IOW, I could write a UBC law that really had nothing to do with guns. Of course, the authoritarian gun-grabbers who are currently pushing UBCs would never vote for such a thing because they don't really care about making sure all gun buyers are not prohibited persons. They are working toward an ultimate goal of gun confiscation and a real UBC that looked at people, not guns, would not serve that purpose.

 

[avvidclif]

There you go again Ben, a voice of sanity.

 

[AustinN4]

........, women checking out the status of men who are asking for their attention,.......

Cuts both ways. There's a lot of cra-cras out there.

 

[benenglish]

Cuts both ways. There's a lot of cra-cras out there.

I consider myself lucky that I've only dated one of them. I've known a bunch, though, so your point is well taken.

 

[WAYnorthTX]

@sidebite252

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[Younggun]

Somebody channeling their inner Cortez?


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[C_Hallbert]

Libertarians remind me spoiled children who are far more stubborn than they are intelligent. They want everything their way and hold out indefinitely until whatever it is they’re hung up on is decided by the rest of their group at which time they sulk and refuse to participate. Their color is purple because they represent the worst of what they assimilate from both major parties.....


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[WAYnorthTX]

Somebody channeling their inner Cortez?

Cortez WHO ? I fail to get your private lingo.

 

[C_Hallbert]

This from the people who demonized McCain.

McCain made his own deal with the ‘Demon’ in exchange for voter support from his Left leaning constituency. He should be remembered along with Benedict Arnold.....


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[Frank59]

McCain made his own deal with the ‘Demon’ in exchange for voter support from his Left leaning constituency. He should be remembered along with Benedict Arnold.....


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LMAO! Good to see you back Mr. Hallbert

 

[Younggun]

Cortez WHO ? I fail to get your private lingo.

Sorry, I was under the impression you followed US politics and would get mainstream political and cultural references related to such.

I’ll try to dumb it down in the future.



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[WAYnorthTX]

Sorry, I was under the impression you followed US politics and would get mainstream political and cultural references related to such.
I’ll try to dumb it down in the future.

That's mighty white of you.
Now who is Cortez ?

 

[TheDan]