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Truck lock box and discrete "Dewalt" box

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  • JColumbus

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    Hey guys, if you're going to comment, please read the post. I give details in the post that may answer curiosities you may have. It's 2 for 2 so far, so yea just read it so you don't post something that I've already addressed and have to reiterate.

    This pistol is such a fun build. It inspires the tinkering and creation of things none of my other firearms really inspire.

    Anyway, I've carried an AR pistol wherever I go for about 2 years now. My biggest issue was always leaving it in the car. I've always tried to secure it as best I could, but it was never good enough. This purpose was the original thing that led me toward looking for compact, takedown builds.

    I think takedown ARs are awesome and fun, but the only practical use I have for it, IS to be able to lock it up in the truck. Otherwise I probably wouldn't had been as interested. I wouldn't lock it up to go get gas, or go in a corner store, or a restaurant if I can see my car, or any other quick trips. It would be for those long, I can't see my car and I'm not around it, trips.

    Every other aspect is just the cool factor. So SINCE I can do "cool" stuff with it, I decided that it's home, when carrying it to the range, or wherever else, would be a discrete package. I decided to go with an old Dewalt case I had sitting around.

    I still need to buy the foam, and the other rail inside is for a 10.5" 5.56 QRB setup, so I can easily switch between 300AAC (the 7.5" current setup), and the 10.5.

    As for the lockbox, it will be bolted to the truck, on a slide out system, under a seat. Once locked in, it would take someone hours to figure out a way to get it.

    Last, as to the "you'll be dead before you can get to it" thoughts; It'd be a RARE thing to have it in this box, but IF I were ever getting into my SUV and the boogeyman came at me, I would default to the cary pistol. That would almost always be the case, even if the AR is ready to go. Having an AR pistol and using it for defense will almost always be in a situation where you have reaction time. When split seconds count, while you're out and about, it's gonna be what's on the hip.

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    Anyway, nothing is set in stone but these are the ideas, so far.

    Thanks for checking out my nonsense and God bless.
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    Big Green

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    Looks like a nice little firearm and I really like the idea of having it hidden somewhere.

    Having said that, this seems like the other conversation about not having a round in the chamber. What’s the point of having it in the truck at all if it is that disassembled? Even the optic has been removed. As small as that package is I would think you could do something similar that allows the weapon to be stored more put together. Even the lower with a mag inserted and the upper with optic still attached would be better.
     

    JColumbus

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    Looks like a nice little firearm and I really like the idea of having it hidden somewhere.

    Having said that, this seems like the other conversation about not having a round in the chamber. What’s the point of having it in the truck at all if it is that disassembled? Even the optic has been removed. As small as that package is I would think you could do something similar that allows the weapon to be stored more put together. Even the lower with a mag inserted and the upper with optic still attached would be better.

    Funny, I just responded to that thread.

    But no, it's not like that at all cause I have a pistol on my hip, with a round in the chamber.

    Also, I get what you're saying but with the rarity I stated in the post, not sure if you read it, it would rarely be in the lock box. For the rare times I've been away from the car long enough to be worried about it, each time, I thought "damn it, if only I can lock it up in a bolted down safe or something".

    So yea, there'd be no point if it was broken down even sometimes. But as the post states, it's a rare occasion.
     

    Big Green

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    Funny, I just responded to that thread.

    But no, it's not like that at all cause I have a pistol on my hip, with a round in the chamber.

    Also, I get what you're saying but with the rarity I stated in the post, not sure if you read it, it would rarely be in the lock box. For the rare times I've been away from the car long enough to be worried about it, each time, I thought "damn it, if only I can lock it up in a bolted down safe or something".

    So yea, there'd be no point if it was broken down even sometimes. But as the post states, it's a rare occasion.
    I read and re-read and saw you mentioned how rarely it may occur before I posted originally. Just seems like too much trouble taken apart like that.
     

    JColumbus

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    I read and re-read and saw you mentioned how rarely it may occur before I posted originally. Just seems like too much trouble taken apart like that.

    It's actually really easy. I know that there's the whole stress factor and all of that, but I had the wife time me and in a calm state, it only took 37 seconds to put back together.

    Wait till I buy my concealed carry pocket box. I'm going to break it down to every last part, springs, detents and all. Then when a "perp" walks up to me, I'll take out my tactical time out whistle and bedazzle him with how fast I can put every piece back together, and right when he's hypnotized and dazed, I'll sneak my money into his back pocket and run. He'll THINK I tricked him and got away. Only to realize when he gets home, that he tricked ME into giving him my money... None of this makes sense... Anyway... RARE.
     

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    Wouldn’t a box marked DeWalt be just as attractive to a thief? I mean, after all, they’re after stuff they can pawn. .

    I would think any box that’s visible would get their attention whether it’s marked or unmarked. Unless it’s secured with something they can’t readily overcome with some tin snips, I’d say you’re likely to be subject to a “smash & grab” type vehicle break in.
     
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    Wouldn’t a box marked DeWalt be just as attractive to a thief? I mean, after all, they’re after stuff they can pawn. .

    I would think any box that’s visible would get their attention whether it’s marked or unmarked. Unless it’s secured with something they can’t readily overcome with some tin snips, I’d say you’re likely to be subject to a “smash & grab” type vehicle break in.

    Whaaaa.....?

    Why would I leave my firearm in a Dewalt box, in my vehicle?

    Did you read the post? That's what the lock box is for. The Dewalt box is just a fun project to cary it to and from the range, or to a friend's house. I TYPED that...
     

    BuzzinSATX

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    I think you have a very creative and non threatening (visually) way of transporting and keeping your AR pistol available. And ultimately, it’s pretty much child and novice proof and most people wouldn’t be able to make it go bang without a lot of time and likely trial and error.

    If you see value in it, I think it’s a good thing. I can clearly see how this is a pretty smart idea. Not for everyone, but definitely for some folks.

    thanks for sharing...take care,
     

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    Question.

    I understand that it’s not an immediate action tool and “some assembly required”. Got all that and this is just a technical question...I am curious...assuming good light and working area conditions, how long to get the gun from “pieces to pee pew”? And are tools needed?

    Clearly it’s like anything where practice would speed assembly times, but on average...when you are trying to move with a purpose...

    take care.

    Thanks!
     

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    No suggestions. Just one observation. I suspect the actual lock mechanism on the lock box would not take that long for someone to defeat. But perhaps long enough to discourage them.

    Is there a longer lock box which would require less breakdown?
     

    JColumbus

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    Question.

    I understand that it’s not an immediate action tool and “some assembly required”. Got all that and this is just a technical question...I am curious...assuming good light and working area conditions, how long to get the gun from “pieces to pee pew”? And are tools needed?

    Clearly it’s like anything where practice would speed assembly times, but on average...when you are trying to move with a purpose...

    take care.

    Thanks!

    After I put it all in the lock box to make sure it fit (at the dining room table where my wife was sewing), I asked my wife to time me casually putting it back together. I started with the keys on the table and the box locked.

    All the way to putting it together including, turning the dot on, flipping the covers down, pulling the brace back, and chambering a round, it only took 37 seconds. I did it on video just to analyze and critique myself and I wouldn't mind sending it so you can see how easy it is.

    No tools are needed at all. I personally don't like that I have to not only take the front end apart, but I still have to take the upper receiver off, for it to fit. I really didn't want to have to do that, but in order to stow it away under a seat, where it will be bolted down, it has to be that small. With five kids, I really don't have an option to use a bigger box.

    As far as a well lit place, I can and have put it together with my eyes closed. It really is THAT easy. So I'm not too worried about the light aspect. Also, I was standing up when putting it together in 37 seconds, so all I need is for the box to be able to sit somewhere with the lid open.

    But yea, I'm sure I'll never be unlocking the box and putting it together in a hurry. It's impractical for that purpose. I'm just glad I can go about my business without worrying about leaving my ar pistol in my SUV now.

    Just for further understanding where I usually have my ar and what I do with it when I am in view of my car or will only be a few minutes. I usually just have it on the right side of my legs, against the center console with the barrel pointed at an angle, downward, toward the gas pedal or front of the car. It doesn't protrude so I put a button up shirt over it and it just looks like I took off my shirt and left it hanging off the center console.

    Whatever the case, I'm still learning and adapting to carrying an ar pistol in the vehicle, so I'm interested to see how I will go about everything in the future. What will stay the same and what will change. I am also VERY interested to how other people go about this, SO...

    If any of you cary an ar pistol or another truck gun with you, most of the time you are out and about, please DO share where you keep it while you're operating the vehicle, what you do with it when you leave the car, and other things.

    Thanks.
     

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    No suggestions. Just one observation. I suspect the actual lock mechanism on the lock box would not take that long for someone to defeat. But perhaps long enough to discourage them.

    Is there a longer lock box which would require less breakdown?

    I looked, but nothing that fits under the seat. I don't know if I made it very clear in the original post, but the box is going under a seat, bolted to the vehicle. I work in a machine shop where I will build a slide out system to lock the box up, and there will be a 1/4 inch steel flap that will also lock into place. So with it under the seat and locked in place, nobody will be able to even pull it out to get to the lock in the first place.
     

    JColumbus

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    I’m pretty certain than lock can be punched in one or two swings.

    You're mistaken, because the lever that turns into place when the lock is locked was upgraded with a steel one. I work in a machine shop to I modified it because I new the lock would be the weak point. Took care of that.

    But as I said to the other gentleman, when it's locked in place under the seat (which is why I opted for such a small box), nobody will be able to pull it out to even get to the lock. I've thought of all of this stuff already, or I wouldn't had even bothered with it.

    Additionally, you can't punch the lock in by hitting it down. Doesn't matter what you use. So the only other way someone could try to open it while locked in place, would be to try and pry the lid upward with a crowbar or something similar. The box would be a real challenge to bend, but again, it's under a seat.

    They'd still have to get past the locked flap to even try to work on the box.

    This is a system and if you can't visualize it how I'm explaining it, I'll draw up the plans and when it's actually installed, I'll update the thread.

    I've done something like this similar before. It'd take no less than a couple of hours to make any sort of progress. Violently ripping the seat out would be faster but even that will be unlikely with that whole area closed off.
     
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    ...I am also VERY interested to how other people go about this...
    If there’s a need for a long gun to be used in my truck, it’s accessible and ready to go after I charge a round.

    I generally don’t leave firearms in an unattended vehicle; when I do, there’s a console vault for handguns and long guns are in their cases, locked. If need be, I can run a steel cable through the locks and secure it to a seat frame.

    My thought is if someone wants to break in, they will. In Texas, they’re looking for a gun in the glove compartment, under the seats, or in the center console. A lock won’t stop them, with a hammer and screwdriver, punch, or cold chisel they can defeat most cylinder locks in seconds.

    I really hate leaving a firearm in an unattended vehicle, no matter how secure I think it is.
     

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    I looked, but nothing that fits under the seat. I don't know if I made it very clear in the original post, but the box is going under a seat, bolted to the vehicle. I work in a machine shop where I will build a slide out system to lock the box up, and there will be a 1/4 inch steel flap that will also lock into place. So with it under the seat and locked in place, nobody will be able to even pull it out to get to the lock in the first place.
    Did not understand that the slide is locked as well.
     

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    At the end of the day, just putting it in a lockbox that is bolted to the floor of the SUV is better than nothing.

    Who knows, I may abandon this and come up with something else.
     
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