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  • cvgunman

    Not a Leftist douchebag!
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    Riot gear and other items "mysteriously" appear in Louisville. Guess the mystery was solved and there may be some Soros links.

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    Dougw1515

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    We are where we are now because it was a botched operation.

    Folks whine about no knock warrants, but the element of surprise saves lives.

    I can’t imagine how many disaster I could have been in if I had to k&a and lose element of surprise.
    Interesting.... W/O the benefit of being there do you have any idea when the operation headed south?
     

    Shady

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    Frank59, I'm not singling you out. This is for everyone that believes in the idea that is essentially, if someone is around crime then their collateral death is acceptable.

    The law is clear on "self defense" and third parties. You cannot kill people that are not immediate threats of death or serious physical harm. Even if she knew he was not the most lawful person, you cannot kill her in the heat of the moment.
    The police have no more protection under the law than you or I when it comes to killing third parties.

    Before anyone raises the argument that there is a law that allows partners in crime to be charged even if they didn't pull a gun, that is a procedure of the law, not applicable to or part of self defense doctrine.

    There are fairly well defined lines around the use of self defense. To go outside of those lines because of who someone is or their value to society or what they might have known, is inviting the eventual removal of that protection because it will become too vague to be enforceable.

    The laws in this country, enforced by men of God moral character, are what will keep evil forces like Antifarts from running a'muck so hopefully we don't have to resort to a system of mob justice with little due process. Killing is serious business and should not be taken lightly, no matter who does the killing or who is killed.

    Most all you have great hearts in this forum and it pains me to see such rash and callous talk. Makes you sound like the little sharts that are tearing this country up in the name of justice and love of man, yet care little for either.


    apparently you do not understand the law in KY.

    Not 1 of the 3 cops were charged with her death.

    The only cop with charges was the dude that blasted all over shooting into another apartment with a family in it, no one was hit in that other apartment and he did not hit Taylor.

    The 2 cops that rightfully shot her got 0 charges.
     

    TXP

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    Empathy and emotion are one of the reasons we are where we are right now.

    Almost my entire post was about the law. The only part that ventured into "Empathy and emotion" was the part about me saying that I thought most of the people in these forums are good people. If you are upset about me thinking that you are a good person, let me know and I'll try to remember that you are an arsehole and treat you accordingly. If i misunderstood your comment, I apologize and will update this post.
     

    MacZC7

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    Almost my entire post was about the law. The only part that ventured into "Empathy and emotion" was the part about me saying that I thought most of the people in these forums are good people. If you are upset about me thinking that you are a good person, let me know and I'll try to remember that you are an arsehole and treat you accordingly. If i misunderstood your comment, I apologize and will update this post.
    It was more of a general statement. I don’t know you and don’t care what you think of me. Just having a discussion.
     

    TXP

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    apparently you do not understand the law in KY.

    Not 1 of the 3 cops were charged with her death.

    The only cop with charges was the dude that blasted all over shooting into another apartment with a family in it, no one was hit in that other apartment and he did not hit Taylor.

    The 2 cops that rightfully shot her got 0 charges.

    Maybe I don't know KY law and you do. However, I've never heard of laws in the US that allow cops or anyone else to kill someone, accidentally or otherwise, just because they have some association or proximity to a person that could have deadly force legally applied.

    I don't think the cops should face murder charges, but I think they could reasonably face negligent or unintentional homicide charges. Hell, the extenuating circumstances may even warrant something more minor than that, but to say that everything the cops did was good firearms policy and practice is feeding a reckless precedent for police shootings.
     

    Shady

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    Maybe I don't know KY law and you do. However, I've never heard of laws in the US that allow cops or anyone else to kill someone, accidentally or otherwise, just because they have some association or proximity to a person that could have deadly force legally applied.

    I don't think the cops should face murder charges, but I think they could reasonably face negligent or unintentional homicide charges. Hell, the extenuating circumstances may even warrant something more minor than that, but to say that everything the cops did was good firearms policy and practice is feeding a reckless precedent for police shootings.


    Well my friend you just lived though it. It does not matter what you think. Its what the law says.
     

    TXP

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    It was more of a general statement. I don’t know you and don’t care what you think of me. Just having a discussion.

    Fair enough, but generally when you quote someone's post, you are in some measure replying to them.

    I obviously don't post much because I'm not the 'sharing my feels' type of guy, but when I do, I mean what I say and can occasionally put those thoughts into comprehensible sentences.
     
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