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  • etmo

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    Indeed - Pence would become president. Although, I don’t know that the proper process would be for him to appoint his VP, or if 2nd in line (Speaker of the House? - being an elected person) would move up into the VP position?

    Well, I was responding to a question, which was, "What happens if Trump dies the day before the election?"

    So at that point, there has not yet been an election. Anyone can still become President -- you or I could run for office and win. The Republican Party is under no obligation to keep Pence alone on that ticket. They could, and probably would, ask Mike who he wanted, but whatever the actual process was, the end result would very likely be Mike Pence for President and someone else on that ticket for VP, with that someone else being chosen by Pence in consultation with the Republican Party.

    All this will have happened before the election, so there is no law against any of this. It's all 100% legal.

    The legal questions would come after the election, because it would be too late to adjust all the printed ballots, which would all still say "Trump / Pence". Was it fair to the voters that the candidates were misrepresented? Should we have a re-vote? Should this, should that.

    But ignoring those battles, Pence will then nominate a VP, just like Gerald Ford did in 1974. The Senate will confirm that nominee, and life will go on.

    But notice at no point does any Speaker of the House enter into this equation. Pelosi, under the 1947 succession act, is next in line, but that's it. She gains no power whatsoever unless Pence also dies before he can nominate a VP. And FWIW, there are serious Constitutional questions about the Speaker even being allowed to try to be the President -- even if Pence died before he could nominate a VP, Pelosi's next-in-line status would be challenged before the Supreme Court and might very well lose, but that's another thread.
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    Now that I have had my 9th cup of coffee: A constitutional question: What if? Trump gets really sick from the Rona and dies. The day before the night before the election. What happens to the election? The Republican nominee had passed away and the election is tomorrow.....

    1) Most of the country has already voted by election day, so those votes can't be recalled.

    2) Recall High School Civics. You arent voting for the POTUS. You are voting for electors. On election day you are voting for electors to the Electoral College, and they are still on the ballot. POTUS death does not change that.

    Well, Pence is also on the ticket, so you'd be voting for Pence.

    No you will not be voting for Pence, nor were you ever voting for Pence. You are voting for electors to the Electoral College, and they are still on the ballot. POTUS death does not change that.
     
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    No you will not be voting for Pence, nor were you ever voting for Pence. You are voting for electors to the Electoral College, and they are still on the ballot.


    " All states currently choose presidential electors by popular vote. The electoral college system of choosing electors is called the "short ballot". This process has been normalized to the point that the names of the electors appear on the ballot in only eight states: Rhode Island, Tennessee, Louisiana, Arizona, Idaho, Oklahoma, North Dakota and South Dakota "


    Does not appear they are still on the ballot in Texas.
     

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    " All states currently choose presidential electors by popular vote. The electoral college system of choosing electors is called the "short ballot". This process has been normalized to the point that the names of the electors appear on the ballot in only eight states: Rhode Island, Tennessee, Louisiana, Arizona, Idaho, Oklahoma, North Dakota and South Dakota "


    Does not appear they are still on the ballot in Texas.
    And no names will be added to the already determined ballot. So if you want someone else to win its going to take a huge effort to get that many people to print in a name and for all of them to correctly spell all parts of the name lol.
     

    HKSig

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    Yesterday Fox News has had a video camera awaiting to see Trump wall from the White House to Marine 1, but I couldn’t keep waiting to see.
    Did anyone else see? Did he walk and appear to be in relatively good shape?

    He looked fine, into and out of the helicopter. Fox News had clips later.
     

    sidebite252

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    A guy I knew from High school just died from COVID. Up to this point I have known very few who’ve had it and none got sick. They buried Jeff last week. No pre issues other than 58 & 30 lbs overweight.
     

    MacZC7

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    A guy I knew from High school just died from COVID. Up to this point I have known very few who’ve had it and none got sick. They buried Jeff last week. No pre issues other than 58 & 30 lbs overweight.
    What did he die from?
     

    MacZC7

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    Idk. You can look further if you wish.

    Three weeks ago my uncle had to make the decision to pull the plug on my aunt after covid shut her lungs down. She was in bad health already and covid pushed her over the edge and she ended up basically in a coma living on a respirator.
     

    sidebite252

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    Three weeks ago my uncle had to make the decision to pull the plug on my aunt after covid shut her lungs down. She was in bad health already and covid pushed her over the edge and she ended up basically in a coma living on a respirator.

    Hate to hear that Mac. It’s obvious for a few this virus is a bad deal. Sorry for your loss. The new article is all the info I have on Jeff. He was a great guy and a hell of an athlete in high school.
     
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