Not all officers, but most wouldn’t harm a law abiding citizen. Too, I think the prospect of neighborhood involvement would loom in a decision making process.Same thing people have said many times in history. Just before they were turned from citizens into subjects. Nothing magical that says American can't go that way. Over half this country just voted for socialism. Did no one notice?
Police are enforcing unconstitutional emergency orders right now (granted, not all). Sometimes with enthusiasm. Police are "just following orders" and allow criminals to loot, burn and assault. And you think all officers would stand up and refuse to follow orders on gun confiscation?
Merely an observation and a personal opinion.
Anyone that takes an oath, to uphold the laws, rights and freedoms, that violates that oath, IOW's, saying they were "just following orders" is IMO, using that as an excuse for their own self-serving purposes. That person was corrupt of their character and morals to begin with.
At some point, we all will have to answer to a higher authority, and justify our actions, and the things we did.
Most everybody is rolling over on the unconstitutional emergency orders. I suspect a good many people would meekly surrender their arms.IF they try it will NOT be pretty.
There are many of us who have lived our lives, done what we needed to provide for our children and grandchildren.
That said, I will die a free Citizen-
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!
Agree, but let's face it. It happens.
It’s unethical. With what is in most safes, making those guns nfa would financially be a hardship. Then even if they get grandfathered in without asking for money, how can you enforce who’s pre or post date of ban. They have no proof.One possible route I could see and I believe RINOs would back this is making future sales of semi autos like ARs and AKs NFA items but letting everything before that be grand fathered in.
No idea how to enforce it but I could see something like that happening
It’s unethical. With what is in most safes, making those guns nfa would financially be a hardship. Then even if they get grandfathered in without asking for money, how can you enforce who’s pre or post date of ban. They have no proof.
I have some tube steak they can register.
As it should be. The government didn’t earn those. You did.I will never register any firearms I own. Wasn't required when I bought them, and they were legal for me to own when I bought them, so nope, not happening.
Correct at one level.
Yet how many cities and states are ignoring "Heller" right now?
If the government is determined to act, it will ignore SCOTUS.
If you've ever filled out a 4473....you're registered. <---no matter what the government tells you.I will never register any firearms I own. Wasn't required when I bought them, and they were legal for me to own when I bought them, so nope, not happening.
2nd Amendment & a conservative Leaning SCOTUS is going to be hard to get around. I don’t see anyone kicking in doors of law abiding citizens. I think it would take scraping the entire constitution and I don’t see that happening.
I think all of those cities and states will tell you that they are not ignoring Heller, but instead have passed laws which they believe are in compliance with Heller, or were not addressed in Heller.
For the topic of this thread, we can both agree there are no confiscation laws anywhere in America, so the entire nation is in compliance with Heller, and nobody anywhere is ignoring SCOTUS.
I understand that you were referencing other laws above when you said "ignoring Heller", but none of those laws have yet been challenged before SCOTUS, so we cannot yet conclude anyone will ignore SCOTUS. The problem, as you well know, was the composition of SCOTUS caused SCOTUS to not take any 2A cases. Now that composition has changed in our favor, we have hope that 2A cases will again be heard, and we can then find out the truth about anyone actually ignoring SCOTUS.
In the end, I'd bet the government will not ignore SCOTUS. In part, because things change. Trump almost got re-elected, after Biden's term another Republican might well become President, and Republican majorities in Congress happened recently and might well happen again very soon. So if the democrats ignore Heller this term, well, next term the Republicans might prosecute them, or perhaps start ignoring things like Roe v Wade, and just shut down all the abortion clinics. The democrats know this, and so I don't think they will play that game.