St louis home owners points gun at protesters

[oldag]

Why was there a need to test fire the gun? It wasn't fired in the alleged crime, so it isn't like they needed to verify ballistics or anything. Is it so they could confirm whether it fit their definition of a lethal weapon, which it did not in the received condition, thus making the determination?

Sounds like evidence tampering to me, but I'm not a lawyer.

Rules don't apply to liberals, especially the rule of law.

 

[MacZC7]

Why was there a need to test fire the gun? It wasn't fired in the alleged crime, so it isn't like they needed to verify ballistics or anything. Is it so they could confirm whether it fit their definition of a lethal weapon, which it did not in the received condition, thus making the determination?

Sounds like evidence tampering to me, but I'm not a lawyer.

They probably murdered someone with it and plan on framing them.

 

[sidebite252]

The bad news is, the handgun was fake and the AR15 wasn't loaded.

I’d read where the noisy cricket was inoperable at the time they brandished them that day but the rifle wasn’t loaded? Are you sure about that?

I can’t imagine a scenario where I would pull out a firearm to defend myself that’s NOT LOADED?

Edit: let me be clear - one in the chamber.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Well, one of the guns was evidently inoperable.
I can't imagine I would do that either.
I would have stayed in my house.

Supposedly they were headed somewhere else when they came out with guns, no?

 

[Mohawk600]

I’d read where the noisy cricket was inoperable at the time they brandished them that day but the rifle wasn’t loaded? Are you sure about that?

I can’t imagine a scenario where I would pull out a firearm to defend myself that’s NOT LOADED?

Edit: let me be clear - one in the chamber.

They are both liberal attorneys......if they would have had a side by side double barrel shotgun........they would have just racked the slide hoping the noise of the action would be effective. rotflmfao

 

[Axxe55]

From what I have read, the pistol was intentionally made "inoperable" by the lawyers to use in a previous case they had at trial. They used the gun as a prop for their case, so it probably had to be made inoperable in order to bring the pistol into the courtroom. That was documented by court records. That is how they know that the evidence lab had tampered with the pistol.

Evidence tampering ,is bad news, regardless of whether you are the prosecutor, or the defense.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Interesting.
I always thought that guns used in court, were guns that were used in a crime, which would make them "evidence".
Does this mean that they took this "evidence" home after the trial was over?

 

[oldag]

Interesting.
I always thought that guns used in court, were guns that were used in a crime, which would make them "evidence".
Does this mean that they took this "evidence" home after the trial was over?

Perhaps it was for demo purposes and not evidence.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Perhaps it was for demo purposes and not evidence.

Sure, that's a possiblity.

 

[Axxe55]

Interesting.
I always thought that guns used in court, were guns that were used in a crime, which would make them "evidence".
Does this mean that they took this "evidence" home after the trial was over?

I think Oldag hit it on the button. Evidence is tagged with paperwork, and usually bagged. To my understanding, evidence has to be in the same condition as when it was found at the crime scene. The paperwork includes a chain of custody, that denotes exactly what people have handled the evidence, and exactly what procedures were performed to the evidence, and by whom it was performed. It is not to be altered, except under certain conditions.. Any alterations have to be documented, the reason, and by whom it was altered.

 

[Mohawk600]

Interesting.
I always thought that guns used in court, were guns that were used in a crime, which would make them "evidence".
Does this mean that they took this "evidence" home after the trial was over?

The trial is over????????

 

[ZX9RCAM]

The trial is over????????

What is your question?


ETA: You realize that this was in reference to the gun the wife was holding.

 

[Axxe55]

What is your question?


ETA: You realize that this was in reference to the gun the wife was holding.

Exactly. Used as a demo for an entirely different trial they were involved with.

 

[oldag]

Took long enough. But only a very minor charge.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/st-louis...mccloskey-confrontation-cited-for-trespassing

 

[Axxe55]

Update on the St. Louis couple.

St. Louis Prosecutor Removed From Mark McCloskey Case

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner and her whole staff have been removed from the case against Mark McCloskey, who with his wife Patricia was charged with brandishing weapons against Black Lives Matter...

www.newsmax.com

 

[gll]

Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For' | Newsmax.com

Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For'

Avoiding felony gun charges, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges Thursday, settling a legal battle over whether the gun-toting couple broke laws in holding guns as protesters broke the gate and walked through their neighborhood last...

www.newsmax.com

 

[Axxe55]

Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For' | Newsmax.com

Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For'

Avoiding felony gun charges, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges Thursday, settling a legal battle over whether the gun-toting couple broke laws in holding guns as protesters broke the gate and walked through their neighborhood last...

www.newsmax.com

I'm a bit conflicted on this. He states he supports the 2nd Amendment, feels he did the right thing in defending his home, but he took a plea deal to misdemeanor charges. Part of me says he caved to pressure, instead of fighting all the charges. Part of me does understand he probably just wanted to get it over with and was tired of the publicity.

 

[Bozz10mm]

i think I would have done the same thing. Class C misdemeanor. Basically a traffic ticket. And now he can still run for Senator.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

And keep his guns....

 

[gll]

Jared is not impressed...