Texas Suppressor Law

[Axxe55]

Although, if ya kill the perp, then remove/hide the can, would anyone know?

Actually they would, because the rifling marks would be different on the bullet.

 

[MTA]

What if you use a firearm with a suppressor that is not NFA registered to defend yourself at home? I assume that the case would only be handled by Texas law enforcement so there would be no Federal involvement so no ATF to worry about right?

Take the home made suppressor off and bury it in the backyard before the cops get there lol

 

[Renegade]

What if you use a firearm with a suppressor that is not NFA registered to defend yourself at home? I assume that the case would only be handled by Texas law enforcement so there would be no Federal involvement so no ATF to worry about right?

Unless it is welded on, why would it still be on there when the cops show up?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Actually they would, because the rifling marks would be different on the bullet.

If it altered the marks, then you've got baffle strikes, no?

 

[Renegade]

Just noticed this tidbit in the silencer law:

Sec.A2.054. ATTORNEY GENERAL. On written notification to the attorney general by a United States citizen who resides in this state of the citizen ’s intent to manufacture a firearm suppressor to which Section 2.052 applies, the attorney general shall seek a declaratory judgment from a federal district court in this state that Section 2.052 is consistent with the United States Constitution.

Here is your chance to be that guy and send written notification.

Then you can be the one who got the law struck down.

 

[Renegade]

If it altered the marks, then you've got baffle strikes, no?

Shirley he was kidding....

 

[gll]

Just noticed this tidbit in the silencer law:

Sec.A2.054. ATTORNEY GENERAL. On written notification to the attorney general by a United States citizen who resides in this state of the citizen ’s intent to manufacture a firearm suppressor to which Section 2.052 applies, the attorney general shall seek a declaratory judgment from a federal district court in this state that Section 2.052 is consistent with the United States Constitution.

Here is your chance to be that guy and send written notification.

Then you can be the one who got the law struck down.

I wonder how they would handle 200k such notifications? All submitted at the same time?

 

[Mike_from_Texas]

Actually they would, because the rifling marks would be different on the bullet.

Say what?


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[toddnjoyce]

I wonder how they would handle 200k such notifications? All submitted at the same time?

Dunno? What’s the harm is submitting notification and if it gets shot down and you don’t manufacture the device?

On the other hand, I could see where an affirmative response could be appealed.

 

[studenygreg]

Simply put, suppressor are regulated at the federal level, so it really doesn't matter what a state passes as far as any laws stating whatever, the feds can and will prosecute you if you have not complied with federal law concerning them.

And yes, they have already prosecuted people where in states that had such laws. And the courts even upheld the convictions when the cases were appealed to a higher court.

So in nutshell, until the ATF makes different laws, it is what it is for now.

I'm confused. Aren't drugs regulated on the federal level? How do states get to legalize them then?

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[studenygreg]

What if you use a firearm with a suppressor that is not NFA registered to defend yourself at home? I assume that the case would only be handled by Texas law enforcement so there would be no Federal involvement so no ATF to worry about right?

Take the suppressor off before anyone gets to your house?

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[Renegade]

Dunno? What’s the harm is submitting notification and if it gets shot down and you don’t manufacture the device?

On the other hand, I could see where an affirmative response could be appealed.

I think the point is if the AG gets 200K requests, and has to make 200K inquires to the court, he is not going to have time for much else.

My guess is he will make one inquiry, and that is it.

 

[baboon]

Although, if ya kill the perp, then remove/hide the can, would anyone know?

Might as well add evidence tampering to your test case!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Might as well add evidence tampering to your test case!

You are not wrong, but how would anyone know?

 

[Axxe55]

Say what?


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Simple. If you fire a bullet through a barrel, it will have rifling marks from the barrel. If it is fired through a suppressor, it will have additional markings from the suppressor.

I'm confused. Aren't drugs regulated on the federal level? How do states get to legalize them then?

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Yes, drugs are regulated at the federal level. States that have legalized or decriminalized marijuana are still in violation of federal drug laws. So far from what I gather, the Feds just haven't pushed the issue yet.

But in regards to suppressors, yes, they have pushed the issue and arrested, and prosecuted people for federal gun law violations, and gotten convictions.

 

[Renegade]

Might as well add evidence tampering to your test case!

How is taking the can off evidence tampering? What if the stereo was on loud and you turned it down after the shooting? If you got blood in your eye (yours or the perps) is it tampering to wipe your eye?

Would make for an interesting case to prove.

 

[Axxe55]

You are not wrong, but how would anyone know?

Because if they do a ballistics test, the suppressor is going to add additional markings to the bullet than just the rifling marks.

 

[baboon]

Let me remind y’all about how the feds got involved in a report of illegal machine guns in Waco,Texas. And then there is Double Barrel SloJoes pick to run BATFE!

 

[Axxe55]

How is taking the can off evidence tampering? What if the stereo was on loud and you turned it down after the shooting? If you got blood in your eye (yours or the perps) is it tampering to wipe your eye?

Would make for an interesting case to prove.

Simple IMO, because if you removed the suppressor because it was not registered and hid it, that becomes tampering I would think.

 

[Renegade]

Simple. If you fire a bullet through a barrel, it will have rifling marks from the barrel. If it is fired through a suppressor, it will have additional markings from the suppressor.

Because if they do a ballistics test, the suppressor is going to add additional markings to the bullet than just the rifling marks.

Ok so you are not kidding.

The bullet touches nothing as it passes through the silencer. If it does it is a baffle strike and usually degrades accuracy and cannot be reproduced like a rifling can. There were some old styles that used wipes and it did touch on exit, but they did not add rifle marks.