Covid Vaccine Issues

[cygunner]

I'll ask an amateur question. If Spanish Flu was H1N1, why did we (globally) not freak out and lock the world down in 2009 like we did for China Flu in 2020?

Don't think we had tv or CNN then.

 

[easy rider]

Amateur question #2. If Spanish Flu is not racist, why is China Flu?

Because it was easier to attack Trump on the current events.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Something we agree on.

Thanks. Maybe I missed it, but I’m curious why you find this an eye opemer.

In my county 341 Covid deaths (at least that's what health department says), one was fully vaccinated. If that's true it is an eye opener.

 

[pronstar]

Many, many diseases are named after the places where found.

Here’s a list of 17, none of which was considered racist because trump wasn’t involved.

17 Diseases Named After Places Or People

Here are 17 other diseases named after populations or places while woke activists object to the term "Wuhan virus" as racist and xenophobic.

thefederalist.com

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[Axxe55]

Amateur question #2. If Spanish Flu is not racist, why is China Flu?

Covid 19 was real. How it was treated was pure politics.

It never was about it being racist because of the name. That again, was just more politics being played.

In some ways, I think it was a test, and the test is still being carried out. To see how far they could push the envelope to infringe and restrict people's rights and freedoms and get away with it.

 

[easy rider]

Covid 19 was real. How it was treated was pure politics.

It never was about it being racist because of the name. That again, was just more politics being played.

In some ways, I think it was a test, and the test is still being carried out. To see how far they could push the envelope to infringe and restrict people's rights and freedoms and get away with it.

The newspapers and corporate tv news were calling it "Wuhan Flu" and "China Flu" until they all decided to attack Trump with racism. It's pure politics.

 

[LaborLawPaul]

You are expressing your lack of understanding of the treatment of COVID-19. There are no great treatments. Dexamethasone, which is cheap and generic, and oxygen has the best evidence. Remdesivir, Tocilizimab, the monoclonal antibodies are all weak sauce. Vitamin C, Azithromycin, zinc, HQC, ivermectin, convalescent plasma have not shown consistent (or in cases any) benefit.

These are Dead Wrong, Big Pharma, Big Med talking points. Any practitioner who believes this will be on the wrong side of history as their patient body counts continue to mount.

COVID-19 Vaccines: A “Cure” Worse Than the Disease?

The COVID-19 vaccines were released on an emergency basis before being properly tested. With the passage of time, the effects of these experimental drugs look increasingly dismal. ...

thenewamerican.com

New Study Links Ivermectin to ‘Large Reductions’ in COVID-19 Deaths

www.theepochtimes.com

Tucker Carlson interviews Dr. Peter McCullough: Where is the conversation about COVID treatments? – The Ivermectin Journal

COVID-19 Outpatient Study

Just another BusinessNET Network site

thezelenkoprotocol.com

Watch explosive interview with Dr Zelenko: 'We need to inform the world' - America's Frontline Doctors

Zelenko Protocol discoverer Dr. Vladimir Ze'ev Zelenko spoke to author John Leake about treating his patients for COVID-19 and then sharing his findings with the White House. In spite of (or because of) President Trump’s initial embrace of Dr. Zelenko’s treatment protocol, government agencies...

americasfrontlinedoctors.org

“I Can’t Keep Watching Patients Die Needlessly!” Medical Professor Testifies to Congress that COVID Cure Already Exists with Ivermectin - Medical Kidnap

Dr. Pierre Kory M.D., a pulmonary and critical care specialist who is also an Associate Professor of Medicine at St. Luke's Aurora Medical Center in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, pleaded with members of Congress to have the NIH, CDC, and FDA look at the "mountains" of data that he and his colleagues...

medicalkidnap.com

You did not mention Vitamin D in your list of "gee it just doesn't work" but Vitamin D levels above 30 (and everyone should strive for 60+) virtually stops this bio-weapon from making anyone severely ill. Everyone should be taking 10,000 IU a day.

 

[rotor]

Thanks. Maybe I missed it, but I’m curious why you find this an eye opemer.

Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?

 

[DubiousDan]

Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?

Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Axxe55]

Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?

I'd like to see the demographics of those who died before jumping to conclusions about whether making speculations of whether they might, or might not have taken the vaccine if offered.

 

[rotor]

I'd like to see the demographics of those who died before jumping to conclusions about whether making speculations of whether they might, or might not have taken the vaccine if offered.

I didn't ask you to analyze the demographics, I just asked if you could look into the future and knew that you would be one of those to die from covid would you have taken the vaccine? Risks and all? Simple question isn't it? What do you think the 340 that died in Wichita County would have said?

 

[Axxe55]

I didn't ask you to analyze the demographics, I just asked if you could look into the future and knew that you would be one of those to die from covid would you have taken the vaccine? Risks and all? Simple question isn't it? What do you think the 340 that died in Wichita County would have said?

No. I still would not have gotten the vaccine.

Here's a question for you. Would you have taken the vaccine under that same scenario, but adding if the side-effects were worse from the cure, than the disease?

As in, instead of being dead, you get to live the rest of your life in a very serious degraded condition with other health complications?

 

[easy rider]

I didn't ask you to analyze the demographics, I just asked if you could look into the future and knew that you would be one of those to die from covid would you have taken the vaccine? Risks and all? Simple question isn't it? What do you think the 340 that died in Wichita County would have said?

That's a BS question.

 

[rotor]

No. I still would not have gotten the vaccine.

Here's a question for you. Would you have taken the vaccine under that same scenario, but adding if the side-effects were worse from the cure, than the disease?

As in, instead of being dead, you get to live the rest of your life in a very serious degraded condition with other health complications?

Well I did take the vaccine, have not had those side effects, have lost 340 of my fellow citizens un-vaccinated and 1 vaccinated. Life is a gamble but you have to know the odds. In your scenario I said you would die from Covid un-vaccinated with very small odds of being in a serious degraded condition. Minuscule odds vs death. Play the odds.
Really no different than any vaccine we take, some small number will have serious problems with the vaccine or even death. You play the odds. Are you better with a seat belt on in a car wreck or off? You play the odds. Do you love Harleys? You play the odds. Are you a pilot like I am, you play the odds.
Seriously, if those 340 that died were alive today, knew that they were going to die, who in their right mind would not get vaccinated even if it were only 10% effective? 100% you will die, extremely small risk of bad side effects vs being alive and healthy. If you would still say no vaccine than Darwin was right.

 

[Vaquero]

If you knew your left leg was going to fall off 3 years from now, due to a vaccine reaction.
Would you still get vaccinated?

 

[rotor]

If you knew your left leg was going to fall off 3 years from now, due to a vaccine reaction.
Would you still get vaccinated?

I can hobble around pretty good but only if I am still alive.

 

[easy rider]

Well I did take the vaccine, have not had those side effects, have lost 340 of my fellow citizens un-vaccinated and 1 vaccinated. Life is a gamble but you have to know the odds. In your scenario I said you would die from Covid un-vaccinated with very small odds of being in a serious degraded condition. Minuscule odds vs death. Play the odds.
Really no different than any vaccine we take, some small number will have serious problems with the vaccine or even death. You play the odds. Are you better with a seat belt on in a car wreck or off? You play the odds. Do you love Harleys? You play the odds. Are you a pilot like I am, you play the odds.
Seriously, if those 340 that died were alive today, knew that they were going to die, who in their right mind would not get vaccinated even if it were only 10% effective? 100% you will die, extremely small risk of bad side effects vs being alive and healthy. If you would still say no vaccine than Darwin was right.

Stop it! Unless you have immutable proof those people wouldn't have died if they had taken the vaccine, you have no right to shame people into getting something they don't want. using questions like your last post is the same type of questions they were using against people that didn't wear masks.

I have never tried to tell people what to do, I just have tried to give informed information that's outside the narrative. It should be up to everyone to decide, not government, and not even your doctor. It's your body.

 

[Vaquero]

And a 99.96% chance you'll be alive and whole in 3 years.
Without masks or vaccines.

 

[rotor]

And a 99.96% chance you'll be alive and whole in 3 years.
Without masks or vaccines.

Your numbers are always off. Mathematically challenged.

 

[Axxe55]

I can hobble around pretty good but only if I am still alive.

What if the vaccine prevented you from getting Covid, or cured you from Covid, but left you alive to live the rest of your life in a vegetated state, on life support?

IMO, quality of life is much more important than quantity of life.

As to the 340 that died, You, nor me can make those decisions. And also would be a matter of arrogance to make assumptions as to whether they would have gotten the vaccine or not, knowing they would die without it. Each one of us has to make that decision.

I made the decision a long time ago, that I'm not going to be a pawn in someone's political game. I looked at much to arrive at my decision. A vaccine that was rushed to the masses. No FDA approval. Side-effects that we may not know about for some years. A government pushing for and almost demanding vaccination. That I have already had Covid 19 and survived.

I am not making that decision for anyone other than myself and not for others. Each person has to make that choice themselves.