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  • Texas45

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    Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?

    No fucking way.


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    Dr. Naomi Wolf explaining why the ClotShots cause more disease.

    "Despite what the fake news media is telling you, most Americans have not gotten injected for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19). And those who have, it appears, are the ones getting sick with and driving the spread of the “delta variant.”

    There is zero proof to suggest that non-injected people are the ones now functioning as “viral factories” as the government claims. To the contrary, the injected have been marked with toxic chemicals that are mutating into new forms of illness that are sending people to the hospital with “covid.” ..."

     

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    American Journal of Therapeutics: July/August 2021 - Volume 28 - Issue 4

    "Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally."

     

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    Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?

    I can’t pretend to be omniscient about what others think or thought. What I know is that since the beginning of this shît show, politics have played a larger part in public opinion that anything else. Last summer the standard D answer on ANY vaccine was that it was premature, would be rushed, and shouldn’t be trusted. Amazing how that has been turned around. Same exact science. Acceptable today, but not yesterday.

    Those 100M doses in 100 days Biden talked about? Almost half had already been delivered to states by then and states were not getting them in arms. So, what was different about those doses on 21 Jan 20 (states did nothing different) that made them acceptable when they weren’t just 24hrs prior?

    All I know to be true if that if anyone thinks the collective knowledge today is all there is to be known then we don’t know anything.
     

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    Responding to post 397. I happen to think that when there are 341 deaths from covid and only 1 was vaccinated that that is an eye opener. Do you think that the 340 citizens that have met their maker would have decided that the vaccine was worth taking if they could do it over? Side effects or not?
    If those 340 people had gotten Covid now, instead of when they did, the likelihood is that far fewer of them, maybe none, would die, even without the vaccine.
     

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    I don’t but that’s probably because a long time ago I decided it’s like gun control or immigration. Nobody on either side is truly interested in solving the problem.
    Ain't that the truth! I'd probably die of a heart attack from excitement if congress actually started following the constitution.
     

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    Ain't that the truth! I'd probably die of a heart attack from excitement if congress actually started following the constitution.

    I'd probably get the vapors!

    I have enough medical issues that will more than likely kill me before Covid gets the chance. Hence part of my reasons I'll never get the vaccine. I have a pretty good idea of my odds and what to expect, without throwing some wild-card into the mix, and screwing shit up!
     

    LaborLawPaul

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    Some folks think the Spanish flu actually came out of Kansas.

    No foolin


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    "For the time being, therefore, all three theories of the origin of the 'Spanish' flu remain on the table." ...

    "In 2017, therefore, there is only one thing we can say with something close to certainty: the Spanish flu did not start in Spain." ...

    "There is one final possibility: that none of the three theories is correct .. ."

    Pale Rider, by Laura Spinney, (2017) pp. 164-5.

    Those three theories argue that it started in:

    1. China,
    2. Kansas, or
    3. France.
     

    easy rider

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    "For the time being, therefore, all three theories of the origin of the 'Spanish' flue remain on the table." ...

    "In 2017, therefore, there is only one thing we can say with something close to certainty: the Spanish flu did not start in Spain." ...

    "There is one final possibility: that none of the three theories is correct .. ."

    Pale Rider, by Laura Spinney, (2017) pp. 164-5.

    Those three theories argue that it started in:

    1. China,
    2. Kansas, or
    3. France.
    You forgot.......


    Aliens. :abduction:
     

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    Congratulations! This thread seems to have successfully been brought back to the bullshit false dichotomy of "to vaccine or not-to-vaccine....how ya like them odds??"...Very smooth....

    Methinks a couple of y'all have earned your latest check (or maybe just pat-on-the-back?); ain't nothing going to make that shit sandwich smell like a steak dinner, though...

    Read this carefully - For the purposes of simple comparison, it doesn't matter one fuckin' bit what the casualty numbers with/without vaccine are, given the downright fuckin' despicable actions of deliberately restricting acess to preexisting and potentially viable alternatives, or even accurate information on those topics. That was planned. It was done. It can never be undone.

    "What would 'they' have said?"

    I think maybe something like "why the **** wouldn't you assholes even try any potential alternatives until it was too late to matter? Are ypu fukin' stoopid? Are you that fukin' gullible? Are you in on the score? What the fuk happened to your Oath? Well....any time now?"

    On a related note - everybody (generally speaking) keeps throwing around words like 'misinformation', most of whom very obviously have no friggin clue what the word means. Let's look at the word a bit deeper, shall we?

    The word 'misinformation' has no applicability within the context of normal (and intellectually honest) conversation or discourse. This applies regardless of topic, perspective, or factual accuracy of information being discussed. (it may seem like there are exceptions to this, but those are illusory).

    The very concept of 'misinformation' is inherently coupled to the concepts of Information and Psychological Warfare. Without those specific [offensive] concepts "in play", we're just back to the age-old deal of opinions being like assholes - everyone's got one, and incorrect information is just incorrect information. Let that sink in for a bit.[/i]
     
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    Well I did take the vaccine, have not had those side effects, have lost 340 of my fellow citizens un-vaccinated and 1 vaccinated. Life is a gamble but you have to know the odds. In your scenario I said you would die from Covid un-vaccinated with very small odds of being in a serious degraded condition. Minuscule odds vs death. Play the odds.
    Really no different than any vaccine we take, some small number will have serious problems with the vaccine or even death. You play the odds. Are you better with a seat belt on in a car wreck or off? You play the odds. Do you love Harleys? You play the odds. Are you a pilot like I am, you play the odds.
    Seriously, if those 340 that died were alive today, knew that they were going to die, who in their right mind would not get vaccinated even if it were only 10% effective? 100% you will die, extremely small risk of bad side effects vs being alive and healthy. If you would still say no vaccine than Darwin was right.
    Well, I haven't taken the vaccine and I am alive. I don't know anyone who died from covid.

    So what is your point?
     

    jrbfishn

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    Well, I haven't taken the vaccine and I am alive. I don't know anyone who died from covid.

    So what is your point?
    You lead a sheltered life.
    I know several that have had covid. Pretty sure including me. Don't know any that died.
    And I am out every day. Not a sheltered life. No vaccine or mask.

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