People defending Alec Baldwin

[Chuckles]

*Please move or merge (I felt this would be a separate issue since this focuses on people defending Baldwin) if necessary.

talking with my wife about the Baldwin incident. She mentioned there were people defending him (surprise! They’re all Libtards). Does anyone honestly believe that these amoral Liberal pieces of shit would be defending a Conservative Hollywood actor/celebrity if the exact same thing happened? My vote is for no, they wouldn’t. In fact they would be so quick and vicious in their efforts to condemn and demand justice (especially since it was a man that shot and killed a woman).

Debra Messing defends Alec Baldwin following ‘catastrophic’ on-set shooting

Messing is defending fellow television star Alec Baldwin after the “30 Rock” actor misfired a prop gun on-set in New Mexico, resulting in the death of a cinematographer.

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[SQLGeek]

Trash defends trash. Sounds about normal for Hollywood.

 

[baboon]

Debra Messing a has been trying to get spotlight!

 

[Aus_Schwaben]

Hollywood called for Trump's youngest son to be locked up with pedophiles and another did the image of her holding Trump's bloody head. The Left screamed freedom of speech and so forth.

Hey Hollywood, let me introduce you to an old military saying - Payback is a Medevac!

Donald Trump Jr. selling t-shirts mocking Alec Baldwin gun tragedy

The T-shirts, which are emblazoned with the words 'guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people', are being flogged on Trump Jr's website for $27.99 and have drawn widespread criticism.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[cycleguy2300]

Despite his politics I'll defend him and anyone to the extent I dont think it was intetional and as someone with little or no firearms knowledge or training he had hired an "EXPERT" to tell him what to do and how to do it.

He can't be expected to know a prop gun was going to fire a seemingly live round. He may not have even known if it was live, dummy or a blank if he had checked (and how do we know he didn't?). The Master of Arms bears the brunt of the responsibility IMO.

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[Brains]

People need to stop saying 'prop gun.' It was not a prop gun, it was a gun being used as a prop and required the same level of care and respect all guns do.

No excuses.

 

[cycleguy2300]

People need to stop saying 'prop gun.' It was not a prop gun, it was a gun being used as a prop.

A gun being used as a prop makes it a prop gun. It is a distinction without a difference and has no impact on what happened or who is to blame

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[or.slacker]

Despite his politics I'll defend him and anyone to the extent I dont think it was intetional and as someone with little or no firearms knowledge or training he had hired an "EXPERT" to tell him what to do and how to do it.

He can't be expected to know a prop gun was going to fire a seemingly live round. He may not have even known if it was live, dummy or a blank if he had checked (and how do we know he didn't?). The Master of Arms bears the brunt of the responsibility IMO.

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However as the executive producer, and an actor on set he was very aware of the previous 3 major safety incidents with guns that week, and in the position to fix it. He had to have local hires replace the camera crew that quit that day due to safety concerns. He should be charged with negligence for those actions.

 

[Brains]

A gun being used as a prop makes it a prop gun. It is a distinction without a difference and has no impact on what happened or who is to blame

I disagree. This terminology is being used, on purpose, to change the connotation. It's being used to pretend his gun was somehow expected to be safer and not the same as the guns we carry for self defense. It's being used to deflect away from the fact he did something he has bashed others for.

So if you're going to defend it, well then I guess I carry a prop gun too. Heck all my guns are prop guns.

 

[Chuckles]

Despite his politics I'll defend him and anyone to the extent I dont think it was intetional and as someone with little or no firearms knowledge or training he had hired an "EXPERT" to tell him what to do and how to do it.

He can't be expected to know a prop gun was going to fire a seemingly live round. He may not have even known if it was live, dummy or a blank if he had checked (and how do we know he didn't?). The Master of Arms bears the brunt of the responsibility IMO.

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What about the fact that he or someone under his authority hired the AD that handed him a loaded gun, David Hall, who was previously fired from another movie for the same type of incident? The fact that there were two prior incidents of a negligent discharge but no actions were taken to identify and replace the responsible parties? The fact that he or someone under his authority hired a completely inexperienced Master of Arms?

I can concede that there is some wiggle room to absolve him of responsibility as the person handling the gun. However, I have a much harder time seeing how he can be absolved of responsibility as the person who had managing/hiring authority regarding the crew of this movie production.

 

[Chuckles]

However as the executive producer, and an actor on set he was very aware of the previous 3 major safety incidents with guns that week, and in the position to fix it. He had to have local hires replace the camera crew that quit that day due to safety concerns. He should be charged with negligence for those actions.

Damn, beat me to it, lol.

 

[Sam7sf]

Despite his politics I'll defend him and anyone to the extent I dont think it was intetional and as someone with little or no firearms knowledge or training he had hired an "EXPERT" to tell him what to do and how to do it.

He can't be expected to know a prop gun was going to fire a seemingly live round. He may not have even known if it was live, dummy or a blank if he had checked (and how do we know he didn't?). The Master of Arms bears the brunt of the responsibility IMO.

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A well thought out argument. I can’t see fault in it.

 

[baboon]

What’s the Eddie Eagle safety advice for kids, STOP! Don't touch. Leave the Area. Tell an adult?

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

He HAS experience with guns on sets. How many movies has the elite communist been in with guns? How many has he used in movies? His hate of guns is forgotten for money.

 

[toddnjoyce]

He HAS experience with guns on sets….

This interview on that topic with him last year isn’t aging well:

How are your gun slinging and horse-riding skills?

They’re always at the ready. I’m an actor of the old school. So if you read my resume — my motorcycle riding, my French, juggling, my horseback riding, my gunplay— is all right at my fingertips at all times.

Alec Baldwin on His Upcoming Western, Filmmaking Post-Pandemic and Onscreen Versatility: “I’m an Actor of the Old School”

Alec Baldwin discusses his upcoming Western 'Rust' and his memories of Cannes, including a near-miss rendezvous with Marion Cotillard.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[alwho421]

In a self defense situation your responsible for every round that leaves the gun, Alec Baldwin is still ultimately responsible.

 

[Texasgordo]

Hollywood called for Trump's youngest son to be locked up with pedophiles and another did the image of her holding Trump's bloody head. The Left screamed freedom of speech and so forth.

Hey Hollywood, let me introduce you to an old military saying - Payback is a Medevac!

Donald Trump Jr. selling t-shirts mocking Alec Baldwin gun tragedy

The T-shirts, which are emblazoned with the words 'guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people', are being flogged on Trump Jr's website for $27.99 and have drawn widespread criticism.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Didn't some Hollywood libtard wish for Barron to be raped?

 

[TX oddball]

A gun being used as a prop makes it a prop gun. It is a distinction without a difference and has no impact on what happened or who is to blame

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And professional armorers will disagree with you, 100%.

Most guns used in film productions are "real" guns, that can shoot blanks AND real ammo. A "prop" gun is a rubber gun, a replica gun that does not fire. From what I read, this production used real guns; in fact some of these guns were used for target practice on the set with real ammo, an egregious clusterf*** of a mistake. Perhaps the use of many real guns was to avoid long-term rentals of modified and prop guns since the production had a very low budget (Tier 1 budget level). And real ammo has ZERO place on a film set, except for security persons.

Baldwin had a long career and was in many films where he handled firearms. He knew that real guns were employed on his set. He shouldn't have cocked the hammer back and fired the gun unless the armorer demonstrated to the actor and cast that the gun was safe to use. His armorer f*cked up, AND HE f*cked real bad. And I hope he pays dearly, the bastard.

 

[kbaxter60]

People need to stop saying 'prop gun.' It was not a prop gun, it was a gun being used as a prop and required the same level of care and respect all guns do.

No excuses.

Agree.
They can also quit saying it "misfired".
No. He picked it up, aimed it at another human, and pulled the trigger.
It was fired, not misfired.

 

[G O B]

4 people walk off due to lack of safety. Baldwin is the PRODUCER = HIS money. Hires 4 locals.
Prior accidental discharges, but his money said to keep shooting.
Baldwin the one RESPONSIBLE!