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  • easy rider

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    I ran through a quick scenario with my officers. All of them know I'm a pretty proficient shooter. I closed the office door which opens out an got behind it. They were on the other side of the door. I yelled out and asked them how many want to get shot in the face before they get solid rounds on me.

    Nobody was willing to be the point man. I gave them all a choice and told them to decide amongst themselves who wants to be the first two or three to die for those kids.

    Comparing their skills to those of a tac team with real world CQB and operational experience isn't even comparable. Those guys have thousands of room entries in practice where the patrol guy almost zero.

    Just food for thought.

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    First of all, I'm not police, and I didn't take a job where there is possibility I may be under gunfire. Did you include in your scenario that while they were contemplating their decision young children are being murdered? I can't imagine standing around doing nothing while children are being killed. But that's me. Now I'm hearing reports that there were 19 officers in the hallway of the school 2 minutes after the killer entered. Maybe there are many that have no business wearing a badge.
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    andre3k

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    First of all, I'm not police, and I didn't take a job where there is possibility I may be under gunfire. Did you include in your scenario that while they were contemplating their decision young children are being murdered? I can't imagine standing around doing nothing while children are being killed. But that's me. Now I'm hearing reports that there were 19 officers in the hallway of the school 2 minutes after the killer entered. Maybe there are many that have no business wearing a badge.

    Honestly, I can easily imagine it.

    I've seen it. I've seen officers getting their asses kicked by a suspect and other officers do nothing because of fear.

    We have two examples of it. Parkland and Uvalde. It's a real scenario. Put someone into a doorway without a ballistic shield and tell them to go inside and kill the shooter. A lot of officers won't do it.

    There are a lot of officers that shouldn't be there. Now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill academy seats. You think we're getting warriors out of that?

    On the other hand, are you the guy that has zero training on room entry and dealing with a barricaded suspect willing to lose your life and have your kids grow up without a father to save someone else's child?


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    Sam7sf

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    Ah ****, thank you so much. I'm so exhausted from arguing this FACT. Someone said "damned if you do, damned if you dont", uh nope, it's just damned if you don't. Someone said "feelings"... Uhhhh haaha nopes again. In fact I would argue that rooting for the cops to wait outside until they "know what they're dealing with", is the biggest feeling of all. ONE OF FEAR.

    Anyway. I'm done arguing that when it comes to kids dying, you get your grown ass in there even if it means little Billy Jr may not have a daddy tomorrow. But that's just me...

    By the way, I'm a good quarter back. They don't even know how much their complimenting me hahaha...
    I’m getting tired of you and that low class brain of yours. Moving on.
     

    Sam7sf

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    I'm still trying to get truthful accurate information on what exactly transpired.

    Jesus Christ... there is so much BS being spewed.....

    I know emotions are at astronomical levels and folks are are grieving....but that doesn't excuse all the BS and political posturing........
    After catching up I’m finding your post to be the best. Just going to see what the truth is. Maybe Abbott will probe this?
     

    vmax

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    In a few days ..June 6th..we will remember young men who ran up a beach to liberate a land they had never seen...into German machine guns

    And 20 cops sat by for 75 minutes and let children die.
    Over one 18 year old with a rifle

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    easy rider

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    On the other hand, are you the guy that has zero training on room entry and dealing with a barricaded suspect willing to lose your life and have your kids grow up without a father to save someone else's child?


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    It's one thing when you have a hostage situation in where the attention is on police trying to enter. Another when the perp is moving along shooting kids. At my age I've often thought of what I would do, I am a teacher after all. My children are grown with families of their own, so they aren't dependent on me, so that's not a barrier in my case. If nothing else, I would draw his attention to me to where someone else can take him down. I don't think I could live with myself, knowing that I allowed someone to continue killing my students, let alone children, without doing something.
     

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    "Our entire department is thankful that the officers did not sustain any life threatening injuries"

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    easy rider

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    Is it just me or is the press and the GAP (Great American Public) now screaming because the police did not shoot a person of color fast enough? After a couple of years complaining that the police shot people too quickly?
    How many police there were of the same color? Sure, people will make that distinction, because of their political leaning, but where would that go for a child killer? I don't care if he was the last purple person on earth.
     

    benenglish

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    During news conference the DPS commander was so scared and nervous he couldn't keep his teeth in.
    Looked like nasty nancy.
    One of the first things my sister said to me when I got home today was "Did you see that news conference? That spokesman should never be put in front of cameras ever again. I can't believe they put him out there this time. His facial tics were so pronounced and constant, I stopped being able to hear him! He didn't even know enough to speak into the microphones consistently! It was a total shit show!..." She went on and on and then finally showed it to me on TiVo.

    I was floored. It was ...I don't know how to describe it. I have no words to describe a performance that poor from someone whose job includes talking to the press.
     
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