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  • What are the chances our Supreme Court strikes down the NFA?

    • Good

      Votes: 1 1.8%
    • Could happen

      Votes: 9 15.8%
    • Not likely

      Votes: 26 45.6%
    • Not a chance in hell

      Votes: 21 36.8%

    • Total voters
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    SrsTwist

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    Our SCotUS has made some surprisingly favorable rulings on gun rights. There's some chatter that the NFA might be up for grabs. What do you think?
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    SrsTwist

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    Probably zero, but Ol Clarence seems to be fed up with liberal shit. Following the letter of the law, it should go.
    That's our hope, that textualist/originalists on the court could prevail. Problem is, if there's a case that gets cert and it goes the wrong way then it becomes case law. That makes any future attempt to get rid of the NFA all the less likely. Maybe if the Repubs take the White House in 2024 and appoint some more conservative justices we'll have a better chance.
     
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    Joshua - Capitol Armory

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    It won't happen... basically NFA items are weird and unusual which means they are able to be limited more than "normal" arms. Until they become "common use" then they'll be subject to nonsense... but at the same time, their status exempts them from a lot of scrutiny as well.

    We all hate the NFA, but it does (in a backwards unholy way) protect them from other legislation.
     

    Darkpriest667

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    It won't happen... basically NFA items are weird and unusual which means they are able to be limited more than "normal" arms. Until they become "common use" then they'll be subject to nonsense... but at the same time, their status exempts them from a lot of scrutiny as well.

    We all hate the NFA, but it does (in a backwards unholy way) protect them from other legislation.

    Before the Hughes act Automatic FIREARMS were pretty common. Frankly the 2nd amendment protects ALL arms. Suppressors is an accessory so I GUESS they could get away with it, but it's stupid that countries with stricter firearms laws than us require a suppressor and anyone who is 18 can go buy one without any paperwork.

    And NO the NFA does not protect anything from anything. A tyrannical legislature (or executive) branch can easily, with a stroke of a pen, make it completely illegal with no grandfather clause. If they thought they could get away with it they'd outlaw all of them.
     

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    The feds dont like having money taken from them. The NFA has become very lucrative over the past couple of years. Just wait til they put semi autos on the NFA. Id love for it to be gone but they get the control they want, plus a $200 bonus per item

    More money to shovel into their pockets
     

    Joshua - Capitol Armory

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    MGs were still rare... I wouldn't say they were anywhere close to common. We're talking half a million forms in 2020, and around 40k in 2005. It was even less before then. In 86, AR-15s were not common at all either. The 2nd Amendment is crippled by what the courts interpret it as. They have stated it can have regulations and limits on unusual items. (It's not my opinion or belief, just what they have ruled.)

    As far as protection... look at the Clinton era ban. That's one example of it.
     

    TheDan

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    NFA items are weird and unusual which means they are able to be limited more than "normal" arms. Until they become "common use" then they'll be subject to nonsense
    They are not in common use only because they are regulated. Simply unpin the flash hider from all the M4geries out there and SBRs would be common.
     

    SrsTwist

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    MGs were still rare... I wouldn't say they were anywhere close to common. We're talking half a million forms in 2020, and around 40k in 2005. It was even less before then. In 86, AR-15s were not common at all either. The 2nd Amendment is crippled by what the courts interpret it as. They have stated it can have regulations and limits on unusual items. (It's not my opinion or belief, just what they have ruled.)

    As far as protection... look at the Clinton era ban. That's one example of it.
    Yeah, I'd be nice if they at least struck down the ban on the sale of new machine guns to the public.
     

    OutlawStar

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    We can't even get republicans to introduce and push a hearing protection act to get pieces of the NFA taken down. Suppressors aren't even guns but are more regulated than the thing they're designed to accessorize. I'd take that as a good first step; make suppressors just accessories or even on the same level as buying a gun today, then start focusing on SBRs, SBSs, and AOW stuff, but leave machine guns and explosive launchers on the NFA. And before you say it, no it shouldn't be as restrictive but if they kill us with 1000 papercuts, we should do it back.
     

    Darkpriest667

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    We can't even get republicans to introduce and push a hearing protection act to get pieces of the NFA taken down. Suppressors aren't even guns but are more regulated than the thing they're designed to accessorize. I'd take that as a good first step; make suppressors just accessories or even on the same level as buying a gun today, then start focusing on SBRs, SBSs, and AOW stuff, but leave machine guns and explosive launchers on the NFA. And before you say it, no it shouldn't be as restrictive but if they kill us with 1000 papercuts, we should do it back.

    The Hearing protection act was pretty much on the table until the Vegas Shooting in 2017.
     

    OutlawStar

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    That means they weren't serious about passing it in the first place. Convenient excuse for them...
    I was going to say something similar: when it comes to sending $50,000,000,000 to a foreign country they got that approved in under a week. Another $700 bill for "infrastructure"? passed at light-speed. HPA had some murmurs of activity then "well we can't discuss it now, it'll look like we support murderers!"
     
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