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    Havok1

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    When you choose to buy, you choose to pay the taxes and lots of people have chosen to not pay income taxes... you just don't want to make the choices that are required to not pay taxes.



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    ok. you can think that all you want. Doesn’t make ukraine any more important to us.
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    cycleguy2300

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    ok. you can think that all you want. Doesn’t make ukraine any more important to us.
    You come to a discussion about Ukraine to discuss how unimportant it is? If it is unimportant why spend your time on it?

    Wise people do not spend time or energy on things they believe to be unimportant. Wise people concentrate their energy on things that matter.

    While I respect resolve and determination, I truly feel sorrow for people who can have truth rubbed in their face, yet refuse to acknowledge it.

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    cycleguy2300

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    ok. you can think that all you want. Doesn’t make ukraine any more important to us.

    And let's break your argument about choices down.

    "ok. you can think that all you want."

    This is not a refutation of my statement that you DO have choices. This is a juvenile deflection. It is a true statement. I can in fact think you have choices to not pay taxes. The implication is "I can think that (despite it being wrong) all you want". Here again you toy with a declaration yet stop short of committing to an argument.

    Do you or do you not have choices in paying taxes? YES or No?

    You've done the same your supposed arguments. You mealy mouth around the points, not saying untruths, but saying them with implications in the hopes you could deny them as misunderstandings later.

    Stop being a coward, pick a side and take a stand and say what you mean.

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    For CG2300.
    Quick Google search for Ukrainian Nazi images.
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    cycleguy2300

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    Quick Google search for Ukrainian Nazi images.
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    Nazis are no more of an issue in Ukriane than here. There are and always will be bad and evil people, but my experience there and in talking to Ukrianians about it, the affinity towards "nazis" is because of how terrible the Soviets were. It, for the vast majority of Ukraine sympathetic to nazis, has nothing to do with race, it has to do with they were the only force since their grandfather's time to have opposed the Soviets.

    Take Ho Chi Minh, or Hamish Henderson... I think one could call them "incidental" communists. One wanted freedom from colonial French rule, the other freedom from the English crown. They turned to the only viable alternative to those oppressors... it is much the same for Ukrainians. They know what the nazis did, they had they synagogues destroyed and their Jews murdered... they are very much aware and have memorialized it so people do not forget the horror of the nazis.

    In a very simplistic way, it would be akin to speaking in favor of a politician's foreign or economic policy when they supported the murder of countless unborn children... just because someone or something is evil and anathema does not mean it is so in its entirety.

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    Havok1

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    And let's break your argument about choices down.

    "ok. you can think that all you want."

    This is not a refutation of my statement that you DO have choices. This is a juvenile deflection. It is a true statement. I can in fact think you have choices to not pay taxes. The implication is "I can think that (despite it being wrong) all you want". Here again you toy with a declaration yet stop short of committing to an argument.

    Do you or do you not have choices in paying taxes? YES or No?

    You've done the same your supposed arguments. You mealy mouth around the points, not saying untruths, but saying them with implications in the hopes you could deny them as misunderstandings later.

    Stop being a coward, pick a side and take a stand and say what you mean.

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    So now I’m a coward? Wow. You must feel so tough because you’ve decided to support wasting our tax money on ukraine.
     

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    Not to interrupt this stimulating debate (I have a hard time following) I saw this one of the news blasts I get and can't verify its veracity... kind of interesting as the subject of biolabs has already been dredged up...

     

    General Zod

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    Not to interrupt this stimulating debate (I have a hard time following) I saw this one of the news blasts I get and can't verify its veracity... kind of interesting as the subject of biolabs has already been dredged up...


    Where do you keep finding these conspiracy sites?
     

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    Where do you keep finding these conspiracy sites?
    I try to stay informed. If you want to make comments "conspiracy sites" why not do just a little research. You interject yourself in virtually every exchange and present as an authority so just do some digging before you start casting what seem to be insulting comments. I won't get into exchanges with you further as that is what you are looking for.

     

    General Zod

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    I try to stay informed. If you want to make comments "conspiracy sites" why not do just a little research. You interject yourself in virtually every exchange and present as an authority so just do some digging before you start casting what seem to be insulting comments. I won't get into exchanges with you further as that is what you are looking for.


    I've followed several of the sites you link to. I've found them to be about as reliable as World Net Daily was. A little fact with a lot of wild speculation attached and presented as fact...and no concrete sources to refer to. Oddly enough, many of them parrot Russian propaganda claims. What a coincidence.

    And once again, if there were all of these scary bio-labs peppered around Ukraine that the valiant Russian invaders were saving the world from...why has there been not a peep about finding/destroying/capturing any of them by the Russians? The Russian side is so eager to spin any tale they can to justify their aggression, this would be trumpeted for all the world to see.

    And yet, it's not. Maybe because it's yet another bit of propaganda they can't back up, but that a lot of people over here eagerly latch onto for some unfathomable reason.

    BTW, this is a group conversation. Anyone in here can and has felt free to 'interject' into the flow of conversation at will. If you don't like it, then I suggest moving your portion of the conversation to DM's so nobody can contradict you. Otherwise...you're gonna have to put your big boy pants on and deal with not being agreed with.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Balhmut holds!




    She is speaking slowly wondering if she will fall out a window, down stairs or have a heart attack...



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    cycleguy2300

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    russia will not stop with Ukraine. They openly state they will go to war:

    To get the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) to leave NATO

    To get a corridor through the Baltic states to kaliningrad oblast, the discontiguous part of russia on the Baltic sea

    To deprive "prussian" Poland of access to the Baltic sea

    To take a strip of land from Poland to Bulgaria




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