Does Open Carry Include Rifles?

[gll]

No it’s not. people who are “a gun owner, but…” are more harmful than this guy carrying a rifle while buying beer.

I looked up the definition of FUDD on Urban Dictionary and it said Lonesome Dove...

 

[Axxe55]

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I grew-op in an always OC legal area. we often carried even as kids, and few paid any attention to it.

During the intervening years, a false stigma was attached to ALL firearms ownership, and many quit the legal practice over “public disapproval”. Indeed, some jurisdictions, like the gun-friendly Florida, even made O C illegal.

This has left the general public with distrust and uneasiness around armed citizens.

One extremely important facet, which I can’t recall being covered here is this: The public needs to become re-accustomed to seeing armed people. Normal looking, non-threatening everyday men & women. People going about their daily activities.

In recent years, in Texas & other places, most OC’ers I’ve seen in public places have been poorly dressed, unkempt youngish men.

The public should see better-dressed folks, neater, carrying as they go about their daily activities. This should re-acclimate folks to the fact that they are often surrounded by armed non-criminal Citizens, whether they know it, or not.

We cannot allow our RIGHTS to be diminished by the foolish opinions of a multitude of Karens.

The few times I have OC’d lately, I’m sometimes asked if I were a LEO. I smile & say no, just an old retired Doc who once was a US Army Captain, but my Son is a career LEO. Everyone seems satisfied with that.

Let’s all try to make other folks become comfortable.

leVieux
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WELL EVERYON KNOWS THAT SOMEOVERALL WEARING WHITE-TRASH REDNECK MAKES A BETTER SPOKES MAN THAN SOME SUIT WEARING TIGHT ASS!

 

[leVieux]

No it’s not. people who are “a gun owner, but…” are more harmful than this guy carrying a rifle while buying beer.

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Yes, sadly, some on our side, but with very poor judgemet, insisted on carrying their military style rifles into restaurants.

This caused great backlash.

Results include the confusing Texas sign-prohibition laws, which have hurt us all.

Folks asked, quite reasonably; ”Who are these people and why do they feel need to carry rifles in restaurants?”

Threats often produce results opposite of those intended.

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[Axxe55]

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Yes, sadly, some on our side, but with very poor judgemet, insisted on carrying their military style rifles into restaurants.

This caused great backlash.

Results include the confusing Texas sign-prohibition laws, which have hurt us all.

Folks asked, quite reasonably; ”Who are these people and why do they feel need to carry rifles in restaurants?”

Threats often produce results opposite of those intended.

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YOURE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME ELSE TO BOYCOTT RIGHT?

 

[leVieux]

Only a dickhead would carry a rifle. All it's doing is f---ing over everything to do with firearms.

I think that if a person has a specific need, then rifle carrying may be OK; but never just to intimidate others.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I think that if a person has a specific need, then rifle carrying may be OK; but never just to intimidate others.

This would be illegal.

 

[Axxe55]

I'M SORRY BUT IF YOU ARE SLINGING A LONG GUN TO GO INTO THE STOREBUY A GALLON OF MILK OR A LOAF OF BREAD YOUARE PROBABLY AN IDIOT!

 

[Lonesome Dove]

No it’s not. people who are “a gun owner, but…” are more harmful than this guy carrying a rifle while buying beer.

It's quite clear you don't see the whole picture.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

I looked up the definition of FUDD on Urban Dictionary and it said Lonesome Dove...

Cute

 

[Axxe55]

Cute

INSULTS COME OUT WHEN SOMEONE HAS NO INTELLGENT RECOURSE!

 

[popsgarland]

YOURE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME ELSE TO BOYCOTT RIGHT?

I bet your talking about @leVieux. Since me has be on ignore, I don't know if he's still being himself (which I would bet he is) or not.

 

[Havok1]

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Yes, sadly, some on our side, but with very poor judgemet, insisted on carrying their military style rifles into restaurants.

This caused great backlash.

Results include the confusing Texas sign-prohibition laws, which have hurt us all.

Folks asked, quite reasonably; ”Who are these people and why do they feel need to carry rifles in restaurants?”

Threats often produce results opposite of those intended.

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the same group that is actually the reason both open carry of handguns and constitutional carry have been signed into law? I remember the media trying to make a big deal about them carrying into a restaurant once, only to find out that the restaurant actually gave them permission ahead of time.

It's quite clear you don't see the whole picture.

Feel free to show me.

 

[majormadmax]

Beats leaving it in the car and getting it stolen!

And, again, unless the individual violates Texas Penal Code Sec. 42.01. (8) DISORDERLY CONDUCT (i.e., (8) "displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm"), there's nothing illegal about it!

As for consuming alcohol while armed, there's always been a big debate about it but the law states...

Per Texas Penal Code 46.035(d), it is an offense for a person with an LTC to carry a handgun while the person is intoxicated even if the handgun is in a belt or shoulder holster.

Per TPC 49.01, “intoxicated” means:

• Having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more or…
  
  
• Not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the body.

Note it states "with an LTC" and "handgun," and does not directly address long guns. It has not been amended since Constitutional Carry was enacted on 1 September 2021...

 

[majormadmax]

the same group that is actually the reason both open carry of handguns and constitutional carry have been signed into law? I remember the media trying to make a big deal about them carrying into a restaurant once, only to find out that the restaurant actually gave them permission ahead of time.

No. Open Carry Texas was almost the reason we didn't get open and Constitutional carry...

 

[leVieux]

This would be illegal.

I did’t mean as in “brandishing”, but just like “See me, I’ve got this rifle” type of intimidation.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I did’t mean as in “brandishing”, but just like “See me, I’ve got this rifle” type of intimidation.

Isn't that the same, just using different words.

 

[leVieux]

the same group that is actually the reason both open carry of handguns and constitutional carry have been signed into law? I remember the media trying to make a big deal about them carrying into a restaurant once, only to find out that the restaurant actually gave them permission ahead of time.

Feel free to show me.

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Well, I didn’t and stil don’t see it that way. IIf anything, That group interfered with the legal improvements.

The issue wasn’t about “permission”, but about adverse public perceptions.

For decades earlier I’ve seen hunters take both rifles & shotguns into Texas cafes for lunch w/o any problem. It was the way that bunch did it; or, was media portrayed as doing it.

We don’t have to agree, it is just opinion.

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[leVieux]

Isn't that the same, just using different words.

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NO, “brandishing” has a legal definition. It is not the same as openly carrying, despite what liberals say & think.

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[ZX9RCAM]

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NO, “brandishing” has a legal definition. It is not the same as openly carrying, despite what liberals say & think.

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Yes, I meant the "see me, I've got a gun" comment.

 

[leVieux]

Yes, I meant the "see me, I've got a gun" comment.

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See this:

brandish​

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verb​

bran·dish ˈbran-dish

brandished; brandishing; brandishes
Synonyms of brandish
transitive verb
1
: to shake or wave (something, such as a weapon) menacingly
brandished a knife at them


2
: to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner
brandishing her intellect


brandish
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noun​

: an act or instance of waving something menacingly or exhibiting something ostentatiously or aggressively : an act or instance of brandishing