Conceal and carry at the Rodeo?

[iratollah]

No issues carrying if you're not going into the rodeo. Took the bus to the livestock show and a party in Reliant Center. Saw nothing to indicate a no carry zone. Just don't carry into Reliant Stadium.

Main consideration is that there are drunks and police all over the place. You wouldn't want to have your weapon out on the property lest you be mistaken by LEOs for a perp or worse miss your target in that crowd, you'd have very serious legal, moral and psychological issues. I carried because of my travel requirements to and from the bus.

 

[Greg_TX]

I'm pretty sure the various sport referees and umpires were instrumental in getting that "No guns at sporting events" part in there.

 

[Nobody]

No issues carrying if you're not going into the rodeo. Took the bus to the livestock show and a party in Reliant Center. Saw nothing to indicate a no carry zone. Just don't carry into Reliant Stadium.

Main consideration is that there are drunks and police all over the place. You wouldn't want to have your weapon out on the property lest you be mistaken by LEOs for a perp or worse miss your target in that crowd, you'd have very serious legal, moral and psychological issues. I carried because of my travel requirements to and from the bus.

I visited the Rodeo on March 10 and I want to confirm what Iratollah said: there are no 30.06 signs in the parking lots or at the entrance. Pheet17 had indicated otherwise and his statements are simply not true. There are also no metal detectors at the entrance. The non-permissive environments (NPE) are the Reliant Center and Reliant Stadium. However, there is no 30.06 sign on the Reliant Center entrance; only a "no guns" sign and a sign stating that the Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses have no authority. I did not visit the Stadium, so I don't know what signage is there. Had I gone at night and parked in a private lot with no police, I definitely would have carried, as Iratollah did. After all, if you don't need your gun, no one will know; and if you do need it, who cares about the law when your life and the lives of your loved ones are at stake.

 

[Willy]

If it's a PROFESSIONAL event, the signs don't matter. It's illegal. There is a 30.06 sign on my little one's school. It's a waste of paper because it's illegal to carry inside his school anyway.

 

[JADB]

After all, if you don't need your gun, no one will know; and if you do need it, who cares about the law when your life and the lives of your loved ones are at stake.

Really???

 

[Mikewood]

If it's a PROFESSIONAL event, the signs don't matter. It's illegal. There is a 30.06 sign on my little one's school. It's a waste of paper because it's illegal to carry inside his school anyway.

It is not a professional sporting event. The participants are not paid professionals and do not receive a salary. They receive a prize if they win. It is also not sanctioned by any professional association. It's strictly armature so Its legal to take your CHL.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

Really???

Really.

I'll qualify that by saying you should be conversant in the applicable penal codes concerning concealed carry and the use of force/deadly force. On the other hand, when I know my life or the life of my family members is in jeopardy, I'm not going to worry too much about what the law says I can or cannot do; I'm going to act accordingly and we'll deal with the legalities later.

On the other hand, if you know a particular place is off limits and you recognize a particular risk, rather than thwarting the law by carrying anyway, you might simply choose to not attend.

 

[Nobody]

It is not a professional sporting event. The participants are not paid professionals and do not receive a salary. They receive a prize if they win. It is also not sanctioned by any professional association. It's strictly armature so Its legal to take your CHL.

Thank you, Mikewood, for clarifying this issue. However, the PRCA does sanction the Austin Rodeo.

 

[Nobody]

Really???

Yes, REALLY. There have been many people killed in so-called "Gun Free Zones". I don't plan to be among their numbers.

 

[txinvestigator]

Yes, REALLY. There have been many people killed in so-called "Gun Free Zones". I don't plan to be among their numbers.

Do you have a CHL?

 

[deadasslast2004]

I do not understand all the hooplah............... I have been going to the rodeo in Fort Worth for over 46 years and since I became a legal adult I have carried every year.......................I carried a flask of crown in my coat pocket or 4 beers inside my coat pockets. isn't that carrying?

But I can say I have left the Glock in the truck!

 

[wllmwallace]

Just went through this Friday for the Ft Worth Stock Show and Rodeo. It pays to be informed. I found that the rodeo that night was "Ranch Rodeo", therefore NOT a PRCA or other "Professional" event, I carried, as did the wife. Now, if it had been a PRCA or ANY Pro event (Bullriding), we would not have done so. However, I read...and do my best to interpret what I read to the best of my ability. If I fail to grasp a concept 100%, I ASK. There are personnel on this forum that are WAY more knowledgable than myself, and so I "pick their brain" either for information they have already discovered, or their interpretation (txinvestigator insert back pat here). Now, if I had been detained and questioned about doing anything that may/may not have been legal, no matter where I got my information, it was still MY decision to proceed. Called "being an adult", if I get into trouble for taking someone else's advice/interpretation of the law, the DECISION to proceed into action is ON ME. Sorry for rambling, but I hate it when someone takes anothers advice, then BLAMES THEM for making the decision to proceed. As a parent of two extremely great young men, it is MY JOB to make sure they grow/develope a sense of personal responsibility for their actions. I call their friends the "Not My Fault" generation, and my boys know that I will not accept that.

Their mistakes/bad decisions are usually followed with "DROP - 10 count push-ups - PROCEED"

 

[barstoolguru]

I don't mean to shift the question of this post but is texas not a ZERO tolerance when it comes to drinking (one beer is one to many when carrying)

 

[Bithabus]

I don't mean to shift the question of this post but is texas not a ZERO tolerance when it comes to drinking (one beer is one to many when carrying)

No.

Everything you post concerning weapons laws is wrong.

 

[espy59lc]

No.

Everything you post concerning weapons laws is wrong.

lmao!

WINNING!

 

[barstoolguru]

No.

Everything you post concerning weapons laws is wrong

it was a question and NOT a comment !!!! the book says intoxicated and that by texas law is .08 blood level which can be a little as two beers

 

[matefrio]

it was a question and NOT a comment !!!! the book says intoxicated and that by texas law is .08 blood level which can be a little as two beers

Please look up the law...

 

[Charlie]

I'm too lazy to look up the CHL concerning carrying while "under the influence" or "intoxicated" 'cause I'm almost positive somebody else will look it up and post it here. Most of the time it's gonna' be the discretion of the officer one is dealing with based on the actions of the person they are dealing with as to the level of intoxication. Things may turn out different later in front of a judge, but on the street..............just sayin'.

 

[Bithabus]

it was a question and NOT a comment !!!! the book says intoxicated and that by texas law is .08 blood level which can be a little as two beers

Also wrong.

 

[txinvestigator]

it was a question and NOT a comment !!!! the book says intoxicated and that by texas law is .08 blood level which can be a little as two beers

Dude, you are posting bad info AGAIN. .08% BAC is a PRESUMED level of intoxication, but not the definition that will be used if you are thought to be intoxicated while carrying.

A just for your info, unless you are a 12 year old little girl, 2 beers will NOT get your BAC to .08%.


Below is an excerpt from a paper I wrote on Texas Weapons Laws (it is stickied on this site);

Some get confused by a question on the CHL test that is a true or false question; "There is no legal limit of intoxication for a CHL Holder carrying a handgun after drinking alcohol.” The answer is TRUE. There is no legal limit.

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There are two definitions of intoxication in Texas;

(A) not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the body; or

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(B) having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more.

The .08% is a presumed level of intoxication, not a "limit". A person below .08% can be intoxicated using definition (A). Since you will not be offered a blood alcohol test for a carrying while intoxicated charge, definition (A) will be used.

The media's misuse of the term "legal limit" is responsible for the confusion with this question. The 08% is not a limit at all. The "legal limit" term is used to describe the BAC of a person involved in a drunken driving offense, but the term is incorrect. A person below .08% can be convicted of DWI. In fact, a person with a ZERO BAC can be convicted. (think drugs).

To prove intoxication the court can establish it under (A), a subjective and more difficult to prove definition, or show that the person had a BAC of .08% or greater. .08% IS intoxicated with no subjectivity. It is not unlawful to drink alcohol while carrying. The DPS FAQ even states so.

I don't mean to pick on you or be mean to you, but clearly you do not have a valid understanding of the CHL laws. That does not make you a bad person and is not a criticism directed at you. However, you should not be posting your mistaken facts. Many people come to this site for accurate information, and we have a responsibility to provide them that.