Gun registration question

[woodgrain940]

Hi, i used to live in california and just moved to texas. I have a pistol registered and california but i want to sell it in texas. Do i have to register it in texas or does the buyer have to. PLEASE HELP I HAVE NO CLUE

 

[sti45]

No registeration here. GOD BLESS TEXAS

 

[woodgrain940]

so what do i do if its registered in california

 

[JKTex]

so what do i do if its registered in california

Walk outside and kiss the beautiful Texas soil. Then if you're sure the buyer isn't otherwise prohibited from buying/owning a handgun, take the money, give him the gun, shake hands and say thank you and wish him good shooting.

The last part I think it against California law, but we kinda think it's proper around here.

Guess you figured out now that there is no gun registration in Texas. And you see how well registration is working to keep crimes down in the states that do have registrations. It's good to see gang bangers in Compton using sling shots during drive by's and committing robberies with sticks.

 

[kville79]

Fellow Californian here... I know the adjustment takes some getting used to, I went through it myself. To be honest my jaw dropped the first time I was told that I can have that rifle/handgun the same day I bought it! And gun shows... and CHL's... it's nice here.

 

[M. Sage]

Hi, i used to live in california and just moved to texas. I have a pistol registered and california but i want to sell it in texas. Do i have to register it in texas or does the buyer have to. PLEASE HELP I HAVE NO CLUE

I'm a recent expat. What you want is a form from the CA DOJ for "No Longer in Possession". Basically you send them an affidavit with the gun make and serial number, state that it was sold legally as a resident of Texas to another resident of the same (so that the buyer's name doesn't wind up in any records by "mistake") and they can pack sand about any other details.

The form is no longer on the CA DOJ website (though last time I looked there was a link to it there), but it can be found here: http://www.mendocino.courts.ca.gov/forms/FirearmFD4036.pdf

The reasons I'd send this form in are so that I'm off their records, and so that if that pistol turns up somewhere ten years down the road after being stolen and used to kill someone, you don't get any knocks on your door.

But mostly because I don't want CA DOJ to have those records. It's the principle of the thing.

I plan on trading both of my CA-registered handguns to a friend here for identical guns so that I can send in an NLIP form as soon as I get around to it.

 

[nalioth]

The reasons I'd send this form in are so that I'm off their records, and so that if that pistol turns up somewhere ten years down the road after being stolen and used to kill someone, you don't get any knocks on your door.

But mostly because I don't want CA DOJ to have those records. It's the principle of the thing.

I plan on trading both of my CA-registered handguns to a friend here for identical guns so that I can send in an NLIP form as soon as I get around to it.

Do you honestly think they'll remove your name from their records? I suspect they'll just mark it "sold to an unnamed redneck - see attached FD4036" and leave your name in the database.

 

[Brembo]

Hi, i used to live in california and just moved to texas. I have a pistol registered and california but i want to sell it in texas. Do i have to register it in texas or does the buyer have to. PLEASE HELP I HAVE NO CLUE

First - Congratulations on making "parole" or escaping from CA. I'm sure your internment in CA was a nightmare, but you're free now. Breath easy and enjoy the big busted women and slow sheep.

Second - Unless you are certain that the person you want to sell your pistol to is "clean", I would just keep it and put it away if you don't want to use it any longer. I know there's probably a thousand legal ways you can transfer the gun's ownership, but I tell you... sincerely ..that if you sell it or even give it away, possible changes to legislature could have you "transporting illegal firearms" and you're the next poster child for gun control on some loser's blog.

Honestly. Its crazy out there. Be ultra careful, please.

 

[nalioth]

sincerely ..that if you sell it or even give it away, possible changes to legislature could have you "transporting illegal firearms" and you're the next poster child for gun control on some loser's blog.

Dude, please loosen it up and turn it shiny side out, okay?

 

[JKTex]

Dude, please loosen it up and turn it shiny side out, okay?

Nah, Brembo knows the truth. The black heli's and armored Suburban's have already converged on him and have taken him to an undisclosed place under the desert for interrogation.

 

[Brembo]

Dude, please loosen it up and turn it shiny side out, okay?

Yes, I should just ignore all the warnings and pretend everything will be ok.

Are you stoned?

You've got a president that has voted to ban all handguns.
You've got a AG that wants to create a special unit to "locate and secure" illegal firearms as defined by his suggested weapons list (anything ever made based or founded upon military or LE design - ie everything), resorting to search and seizure where needed.
You've got a VP who not only hates our troops, but hates people who love our troops.
You've got a Dem strong government who is led by mostly anti gun nazis who even work to eliminate Dems who support gun rights (see New York Sen seat controversy).
You've got more pressure from anti gun groups.
You've got government officials lying about statistics in attempts to ban hunting of water fowl and deer.


At what point do you think you should worry about the possible future? After they come take you to jail for speaking out?

Jeez whiz.. Go back to sleep.

 

[JKTex]

Are you stoned?

Well? Are you? You've got the paranoia going for you so far.

(So this is always they fun part.) So, other than an email someone forward to you, other than some nut job web-site that told you what to believe, can you point out where some of those comments are supported with fact? For grins, start with the first one and we'll blow them up with the reality bomb 1 by 1.

Then, we'll all be living in the real world and can focus on the real threats to things that are near and dear to us. But the BS rhetoric has to be flushed first, again.

 

[45tex]

Brembo
jktex had the facts pointed out to him with links. He just moves to another thread and reposts the same Obama talking points. Facts mean nothing to a kool-aide drinker for change.

 

[JKTex]

Brembo
jktex had the facts pointed out to him with links. He just moves to another thread and reposts the same Obama talking points. Facts mean nothing to a kool-aide drinker for change.

I assume in your 1 day as a member you'll point me to where you've provided that?? So far, 90% of the "facts" with links point to the very "facts" that debunk the sound bites. But I know that's what some of you love to blindly feed on.

I'm not a kool-aid drinker, I didn't vote for him, but I think for myself. You paranoid "mob" followers like to put anyone that thinks for themselves over a line you draw so you can call them cutsy little names instead of going toe to toe with facts.

Lets start here. "voted to ban all handguns" I'll help you get started; Obama has been President for about 2 weeks. I can't find anywhere that he's "voted" to ban anything. Please enlighten me. Something solid now, nothing flakey at some local level that had the substance of a snipe hunt.

 

[45tex]

Read the posts before you get so upset. Calm down have some more kool-aide. and listen to some public radio. I never said I provided you anything. I read this site before joining.
Here are some links, but you must read them. Much was already provided to you. (not by me) If you won't read and do the fact checking you won't learn anything.
Brembo is correct. This is a ticking time bomb.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3648


http://www.nraila.org//Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=230


http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_obama.html


http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Gun_Control


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3991

 

[Brembo]

Well there's gotta be some Osama supporters in Texas, I guess.

 

[JKTex]

Read the posts before you get so upset. Calm down have some more kool-aide. and listen to some public radio. I never said I provided you anything. I read this site before joining.
Here are some links, but you must read them. Much was already provided to you. (not by me) If you won't read and do the fact checking you won't learn anything.
Brembo is correct. This is a ticking time bomb.

I'm not upset, I'm waiting for you to make a yourself look silly. And you succeeded brilliantly.

What I continue to ask is that people think for themselves. They read the fact, not what some organization tells them are the facts, check that organizations cites and referrals so "you" can see and understand the issue in it's true context. Don't just get in line, march and chant and your told to.

First of all, you jumped up and defended Brembo's comments above when I asked for some support for those "facts" you so valiantly defended. You came back with nothing. It's obvious, you aren't thinking for yourself. You as well as many others live with the mob mentality and just go with whatever the mob tells you is cool to do.

I'd suggest you follow the resources to links you provide. Actually research for yourself and don't just take what an organization says at face value. I support the NRA, but I don't take their word for gospel until I see it for myself.

Look at most of the NRA links. They go to the same source, Factcheck, which dilutes or proves false the "facts" as you call them. They are not facts but opinions, interpretations, guesses, sound bites etc. The kind of thing lazy minds love to absorb.

What you've posted for the most part, if not all, is old, as far back as 10 years and so when you consider where and when it was, it has little to no application to today. It still has nothing to do with what I asked for......

For example, if you follow the 1st couple of links, you'll find the source actually cites comments such as:

-He "supports states" in making decisions regarding what they feel is right for gun control

-Some of the "facts" were taken from a questionnaire, years ago, that an Aid admits Obama never saw and was never even give the chance to sign off on. It was an Aid that provided the it as if it were Obama. But that was 11-12 years ago. The "source" supporting the NRA "facts" refer to that as rhetoric, thus not fact at all. You trust an organization that uses something that is not fact, presents it as fact, and supports it with a source that says it's not fact? How many people do you think they thought would actually see for themselves? How many people like you do you think they hoped would not read for themselves?

Here are a few things the source the NRA links to calls "reality" as opposed to rhetoric:

(This even goes back 9 years so he wasn't even running for President)
Obama Disagreed With The NRA That "People Should Be Unimpeded And Unregulated On Gun Ownership;" In Favor Of Handgun Registration And Licensing Requirements. Obama said, "I know that the NRA believes people should be unimpeded and unregulated on gun ownership. I disagree. I do not object to the lawful use and ownership of firearms, but I do think it is entirely it appropriate for the state to monitor it. Too many of these guns end up in the hands of criminals even though they were originally purchased by people who did not have a felony. I'll continue to be in favor of handgun law registration requirements and licensing requirements for training."

There's nothing new, as always, we need to continue to monitor what out law makers want to do as far as anything related to gun ownership. I am not convinced that this will go away, but we have to make sure we do what we can to stop stupid legislation. The majority of the work which will be at the State level. See above, Omaba supports states taking action they feel is right.

As far as the "mob" that claims he is outright anti-2A:

Quoted of Obama ...He acknowledges 'a tradition of gun ownership in this country that can be respected,' and says that his academic studies convinced him gun ownership 'is an individual right and not just the right of a militia....

Is his view on 2A rights agreeable to you? I'll add, he does go on to say:

'Like all rights, though, they are constrained by the needs and the rights of the community.'

Again, we need to, as we always have, watch what things are proposed by our lawmakers in regards to "constrained" or "common sense". This goes to his assertion that he supports common sense gun control with an equal balance of protection of rights to gun owners. He can't wave a magic wand and change Federal laws. We still need to monitor what our law makers propose and want to do.

The ontheissues.org link is a good one. Here, I'll provide you a link right back to the same site. It's not the sound bites on the front page, but additional and full quotes. Sorry, these are longer than 10 word sentences and even multiple sentences so you actually have to read them.

Barack Obama on Gun Control

So, what else you got?

You want to spread rumors of what man says and things and will do, a man that is now our President? The challenge you have is to speak truth and reality. There are definitely things we need to watch carefully for and need to fear such as an AWB, but regurgitating garbage only helps support the other side as they are working on their reality and love to see the other side running around yelling that the sky is falling.

Once we've taken this thread way off topic and once again it goes in the same way. Someone randomly pops off with some paranoid unproductive garbage, someone calls them on it and the "mob" jumps in throwing dust to try to distract everyone from the truth. I wear goggles and I think for myself. But this thread is done as far as I'm concerned.

I'd still be interested to see what he voted for banning all handguns. But I know that won't happen. But maybe someone will read and learn before reading from the "mob" script.

 

[JKTex]

Well there's gotta be some Osama supporters in Texas, I guess.

Are you that dense? I did not support Obama as a candidate. I'm sure that's what you meant with the moronic Osama crack.

I support the President of the United States. If you don't, you have a lot of choices of places to move to. But be aware, you might have a tough time keeping weapons of any kind, and quit a few other freedoms.

I would respect you and your beliefs....as long as you think for yourself and develop your own beliefs. Quit being lazy following the mob.

Doesn't it make you feel silly that you can't even support your own comments?

 

[45tex]

Now we see who is cutting and pasting out of context.
I repeat for the last time. In jktex's world facts don't matter, only the party line.
end of thread for me.

 

[JKTex]

Now we see who is cutting and pasting out of context.
I repeat for the last time. In jktex's world facts don't matter, only the party line.
end of thread for me.

Repeat for the last time? When have you repeated it, or said it at all? Ah, you're being poetic?

That is pathetic. Read your own links; I did. But you can't if you're worried about making sure there is a us vs. them instead of an us. I even pointed you right back to one of your own sources. Are you saying a source you pointed me to is out of context?

And now it's a party line? Can't you even keep on the same topic without grabbing for some sad diversion? I know, no, you can't because that's all you got.

It was clear that you (nor Brembo) could address the original issue, and when I went along with your attempt of a distraction, you flipped around again.

All I do is challenge you to think and learn for yourself, stop making a fool of yourself and those who hold firearms laws close to their heart and do something worthwhile.

We do agree on one thing, we need to end this in this thread. It's obvious you (both?) will never go toe to toe but will cower in the shadows with the rest of your self-uneducated mob. Done....