What is the political climate in Texas regarding repeal of the Hughes Amendment?

[ii]

I was shocked to see that no representatives from Texas are cosponsors to the senate version of the bill.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s835

I saw a few representatives from Texas cosponsor the house version of the bill.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1093

It would be nice for the young generation to not have to pay thousands of dollars for a machine gun.

 

[matefrio]

These are far from repealing the Hughes Amendment.

 

[Younggun]

But man would it be nice, the first(and only) MP5-SD I have ever shot was owned by a guy who bought it for less than $1000 in the early 80s, man that gun was sweet.

Edit: not the only one, he also had an MP5-k, I liked the SD better...

 

[TheDan]

Well, that would be awesome if it was repealed. I read that house bill you posted and didn't see anything about deregulating the manufacture of new machine guns, however...

Did I miss something?

 

[Marlowe]

Might just be one of those thousands of bills that has such a remote possibility of even making it out of committee that they're really not wasting the time on it..

 

[ii]

Well, that would be awesome if it was repealed. I read that house bill you posted and didn't see anything about deregulating the manufacture of new machine guns, however...

Did I miss something?

It’s a start. I was thinking one of the Texas representatives could slip in language right before it were to be voted on to make the Hughes Amendment go away for good. Wouldn’t that be a class act 26+ years in the making? Kind of like the way the Hughes Amendment was snuck in right at the very last moment. I am sure everyone knows the cspan footage from 1986 I am talking about here...

 

[Nate C]

I am sure everyone knows the cspan footage from 1986 I am talking about here...

Actually, I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[ii]

Actually, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Well let me bring you up to speed... FOPA Hughes Amendment VOTE APRIL 10 1986 - YouTube

 

[Nate C]

Well let me bring you up to speed... FOPA Hughes Amendment VOTE APRIL 10 1986 - YouTube

Gee, that was helpful.

 

[kabob]

Why? Shooting a full-auto firearm loses its novelty after the first session you shoot it. It did for me, at least. It's hard to remain on-target, gun gets scorchingly hot, they can be and usually are problematic, a magazine dump takes seconds, and ammo's expensive.

 

[Younggun]

Not gonna mess with the why because it's upsetting that it appears you are against the repeal because it's not something YOU want to have.

I will say that with controlled bursts you can put several rounds on target very quickly. Yes a mag dump is generally a spray of bullets with few landing near the target and is all but useless for anything other than suppressive fire and even then unless your running a belt fed weapon will waste a lot of ammo you made need later. Also consider that the reason the second amendment exists is for the worst case scenario in which we would want to have teeth sharp enough to counter an oppressive and out of control government.

i'm tired and that may not make alot of sense. I will elaborate later if needed.

 

[ii]

It's a freedom the American public lost in 1986 and its not fair to those born after the fact. Simple as that.

 

[kabob]

Not gonna mess with the why because it's upsetting that it appears you are against the repeal because it's not something YOU want to have.

I will say that with controlled bursts you can put several rounds on target very quickly. Yes a mag dump is generally a spray of bullets with few landing near the target and is all but useless for anything other than suppressive fire and even then unless your running a belt fed weapon will waste a lot of ammo you made need later. Also consider that the reason the second amendment exists is for the worst case scenario in which we would want to have teeth sharp enough to counter an oppressive and out of control government.

i'm tired and that may not make alot of sense. I will elaborate later if needed.

I didn't say I was against the repeal. But I don't see the point in wasting any effort in it, either. You'll never see the Hughes Amendment repealed as it's too negatively controversial an issue with too much opposition.

You're right, I don't see full-auto as anything useful in a practical sense. Burst fire, maybe, but what's to stop you from pulling the trigger 3 times in rapid succession? And no, dooms-day scenarios don't fall under my purview of "practical." And getting upset over an opposing viewpoint is also a waste

 

[Bithabus]

If an outright ban on handguns is unconstitutional, an outright ban on full auto guns should also be unconstitutional. I think we'd have better chances in the courts than legislative action here. Imagine the headlines: "Republicans want to legalize machine guns!!!".

 

[London]

Imagine the headlines: "Republicans want to legalize machine guns!!!".

If the polls I've read are accurate, support for gun ownership is at an all-time high in this country. In a few more years that headline might make more people happy than not.

 

[kabob]

You forget that Reagan himself and a Republican Congress signed Hughes into law. I don't think in these more Liberal times you'll see a repeal gain any more traction than it would have back then.

 

[txinvestigator]

It's a freedom the American public lost in 1986 and its not fair to those born after the fact. Simple as that.

Not "fair" to those born after 1986? WTF?

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Why? Shooting a full-auto firearm loses its novelty after the first session you shoot it. It did for me, at least. It's hard to remain on-target, gun gets scorchingly hot, they can be and usually are problematic, a magazine dump takes seconds, and ammo's expensive.

Because the 2A is about the ability of the people to fight off oppression if it ever came to that. You're not going to be able to lay down suppressive fire very well without full auto.

I get what you're saying. Still, my/our rights are endowed by our creator not allowed by our fellow citizens or Congress. The Feds never had the authority to take make exercising them statutorily illegal in the first place. In my mind it's righting a serious overstepping of Federal authority.

 

[Bithabus]

If the polls I've read are accurate, support for gun ownership is at an all-time high in this country. In a few more years that headline might make more people happy than not.

Many gun owners still believe in selective exercise of the right, unfortunately.

You forget that Reagan himself and a Republican Congress signed Hughes into law. I don't think in these more Liberal times you'll see a repeal gain any more traction than it would have back then.

Reagan signed FOPA into law. The Hughes amendment was an unfortunate stowaway.

 

[kabob]

I know it was a rider but proponents of the bill don't see it that way. They can and will use the "Well, Reagan, your God, signed it so it must be conservative approved!"