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    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,][SIZE=+2]Ramos, Compean
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    [FONT=Palatino,][SIZE=+1]Congressman calls for probe
    of prosecutor, role of Mexico
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    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][SIZE=-1]Posted: February 17, 2009
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    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]By Jerome R. Corsi
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    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,][SIZE=-1] WorldNetDaily [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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    Jose Compean with his wife, Patty, talking to reporters prior to his prison sentence
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Convicted former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean were released from federal prison this morning and are en route to join their families in El Paso, Texas. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Characterizing Ramos and Compean's incarceration as a "political prosecution," Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, called for a congressional investigation into alleged prosecutorial misconduct by El Paso U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton under the direction of Bush administration Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe also called for an investigation into the alleged role of the Mexican government in demanding that Ramos and Compean be prosecuted. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"As soon as President Bush commuted Ramos and Compean's sentences, the Mexican government registered a large protest," Poe noted. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"In their protest, the Mexican government admitted their involvement in the case without specifying what their involvement was," he added. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"So I think the first order of business is for the U.S. Congress to investigate what role the Mexican government had in demanding the Bush administration prosecute this case," he insisted. "Mexico should not be meddling into U.S. criminal cases." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,](Story continues below)[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe also told WND his office intends to petition President Obama to pardon Ramos and Compean in the administration's first round of presidential pardons [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]After serving two years in federal prison in solitary confinement for shooting a fleeing Mexican drug smuggler who had brought 750 pounds of marijuana into the U.S., Ramos and Compean are being released into home confinement until March 20, the end of their commuted sentences. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]As WND reported, the agents' original sentences of 11 and 12-years respectively were commuted by President Bush on his final full day in office, Jan. 19. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Until March 20, both are restrained from speaking with the press. After their release from home confinement, Ramos and Compean will be on "supervised release," similar to "probation," for a period of up to three years. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Ramos was incarcerated in Phoenix and Compean in Elkton, Ohio. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"At last, Ramos and Compean have been rightfully reunited with their families," said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., another member of the House of Representatives at the forefront of the fight to free the men. "I wish the Ramos and Compean families the best as they now try to pick up the pieces and begin to heal from this terrible ordeal." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe charged Ramos and Compean "were incarcerated as political prisoners of our own country." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Both Border Patrol agents were doing their jobs on the border," he told WND. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe had harsh words for prosecutor Sutton and Attorney General Gonzales. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Our own government took the side of the drug dealer, found him in Mexico, brought him back and treated his wound at taxpayer expense," the congressman said. "The government made a back room deal with the drug dealer by telling him that in exchange for his testimony against Ramos and Compean, he would be given immunity for that offense." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe charged that Sutton's office intentionally misled the jury at the trial. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"The prosecution misled the jury and the American public by not allowing the jury at the Ramos and Compean trial to know that the government had reason to believe the drug smuggler in the case, (Osvaldo) Aldrete-Davila, had been implicated in a second drug smuggling incident before the trial began," Poe stressed. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND was among the first to report that Aldrete-Davila committed a second drug offense, smuggling a second load of 750 pounds of marijuana across the border while he was given immunity by Sutton's office and in possession of a border-pass card authorized by the Department of Homeland Security. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND also reported Aldrete-Davila was arrested for the "second load" on Nov. 15, 2007, and subsequently pleaded guilty to federal drug smuggling charges and was convicted to federal prison for a 57-month sentence. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Then the government went on a nationwide Madison-avenue public relations campaign trying to justify their prosecution in this case," Poe said. "The government has never done this in any other case that I can recall." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND published word-for-word Jan. 20, 2007, an exclusive interview with Sutton, in which he attempted to justify his office's decision to prosecute Ramos and Compean. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Subsequently, Sutton appeared on many national radio and television shows, attempting to convince the American public to accept the Bush administration's version of the case. Sutton contended Ramos and Compean were "rogue cops" who shot after an unarmed fleeing Mexican who was only trying to surrender and that the agents subsequently tried to hide evidence of the shooting at the scene and failed to report the incident to their superiors. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Most of the American public and most members of Congress think the sentences Ramos and Compean received were way over the top," Poe said. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND was also among the first to report Ramos and Compean were charged under the "wrong law," U.S.C. Section 924(c) that imposes a mandatory minimum 10-year sentence on a person using a weapon in the commission of a federal crime. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"That gun law as never designed by Congress to apply to police officers," Poe said. "This is the only case since that law was passed that applied the law to law enforcement agents." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Poe said he and several members of the House plan to introduce new legislation designed to specify U.S.C. Section 924(c) does not apply to law enforcement officers. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]A statement released by David Botsford, legal counsel for Ramos, strongly criticized the government's decision to prosecute his client under U.S.C. Section 924(c). [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Mr. Ramos, who has been in custody since January 17, 2007, was subjected to conditions more onerous than those imposed upon the foreign detainees in Guantanamo Bay," Botsford said in a statement released from his office in Austin, Texas.[/FONT][/FONT]
    Ramos, Compean freed from prison

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    mac79912

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    Been the news all day here.El Paso wants to throw these guy's a parade after there house arrest is over.Too funny.
     

    40Arpent

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    Hooray for Texas in making things right, finally. My hat is off to Mr. Poe. As far as U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, I'd like to see their asses in jail alongside U.S. District Judge John Roll. Maggots, all three of them.
     

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    This was a political prosecution and nothing else to appease Mexico. Their
    are those in Mexcio and our government who want the free flow of illegals
    and drugs across the border, my opinion.
     

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    I haven't followed this closely but can offer a word of advice to those two ... Tell the truth.

    True you did not follow close and they did tell the truth which was simply doing their job.
     

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    True you did not follow close and they did tell the truth which was simply doing their job.


    No, they destroyed evidence and lied to investigators; both crimes. They should not have been sentenced to what they were, but prosecution and losing their LE credentials was appropriate.
     

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    No, they destroyed evidence and lied to investigators; both crimes. They should not have been sentenced to what they were, but prosecution and losing their LE credentials was appropriate.

    Your simply wrong on this however I cannot change your mind so I will
    say I'm happy they are out and believe they will be totally vindicated in time.
     

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    No, they destroyed evidence and lied to investigators; both crimes. They should not have been sentenced to what they were, but prosecution and losing their LE credentials was appropriate.

    Covering up evidence, disturbing a possible crime scene, and the denying you did it is gonna get you prosecuted and convicted most of the time. Can't say I'm very sorry for them. As LEOs, they KNEW what they did was illegal. All I hear from folks is "Well they shot at an illegal alien drug smuggler, and the government prosecuted them for no reason!" Nobody mentions destroying evidence and lying about it...
    If it was a "good" shooting, why would they risk it?
     

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    Covering up evidence, disturbing a possible crime scene, and the denying you did it is gonna get you prosecuted and convicted most of the time. Can't say I'm very sorry for them. As LEOs, they KNEW what they did was illegal. All I hear from folks is "Well they shot at an illegal alien drug smuggler, and the government prosecuted them for no reason!" Nobody mentions destroying evidence and lying about it...
    If it was a "good" shooting, why would they risk it?

    He was an illegal drug smuggler and they shot him, it's all good, at least up until the "drug smuggler" became a protected witness. I don't care about changing your mind, I care about kicking the illegals and smugglers out. The Mexican government is a corrupt cesspool and catering to it by our government makes me quite ill. Texas is overrun with illegals and they are demanding a voice in Texas politics, parading down our streets, and still our government just keep looking the other way or god forbid cowing to their demands. Our border patrol needs the same compassion and thanks that our Troops are getting.
     

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    He was an illegal drug smuggler and they shot him, it's all good,


    So it would be ok to shoot you or a family member of yours, lie about it and destroy evidence? Maybe not INS, but how about local PD or County Deputies. No need to worry about laws?
     

    40Arpent

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    So it would be ok to shoot you or a family member of yours, lie about it and destroy evidence?

    If I, or a family member, were an illegal immigrant smuggling drugs, then yes, it would be okay to shoot me or them. But no, it would not be okay to lie about it or destroy evidence.

    Ramos and Compean deserved punishment for not following protocol, but they did not deserve punishment for shooting that scumbag. That's where I stand.
     

    txinvestigator

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    He was an illegal drug smuggler and they shot him, .

    So we can violate laws as long as it is to get the illegals out of Texas? Lyng, tampering with evidence, etc., is all OK as long as its against illegals?

    Do you teach your kids that you can justify bad or illegal behavior by simply pointing out other bad or illegal behavior?
     

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    Ramos and Compean deserved punishment for not following protocol, but they did not deserve punishment for shooting that scumbag. That's where I stand.


    I think some of you are arguing that by shooting the illegal drug smuggler they are hero's and that's that. And that everyone you're arguing with believe they were wrong.

    In fact, the argument isn't about whether they did good, but shooting the scum bag, they did bad by covering up and tampering with evidence. That's what they did wrong. They can stack the scumbags 5 deep and be hero's for protecting the integrity of our borders, but they can't break the law to try to cover it up. If it's a good shot, let it stand on it's own. So to speak.

    TXSUT said it well. txinvestigator is trying to explain is, but some of you aren't stopping to think about what he's saying.
     
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