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  • 40Arpent

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    Jul 16, 2008
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    Is there a way to permanently disable or remove the locking mechanism from a S&W revolver without adverse effects?
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    Lobo_79

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    May 17, 2008
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    Is there a way to permanently disable or remove the locking mechanism from a S&W revolver without adverse effects?

    There are lots of threads on this subject. Technically it's possible. I thought about it myself for my revolver collection, but forgive me for being paranoid. If you ever had to use it for self defense I think it could be legally risky to have used a "modified" handgun.

    I don't have a problem getting a trigger job, for example, on a range gun but for the guns in my collection that I carry I prefer to leave them unmodified.
     

    robocop10mm

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    Jan 9, 2009
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    Removing a "safety device" is only a real issue if the shoot is not clean. You might have a PI attorney try to depict you as some sort of reckless monster for disabling it, but if the shoot is clean, the gun should be back in your hands before the plaintiff even has a chance to contact an attorney.
    If the shooting is somehow painted as accidental, the fact you disabled the lock may be used against you.

    Of course if you are in Austin, the PD will try to hold the gun indefinately and destroy it out from under you. Once the case is No-Billed, go to the PD and scream very loudly to get it back.
     

    40Arpent

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    ...but forgive me for being paranoid. If you ever had to use it for self defense I think it could be legally risky to have used a "modified" handgun.

    I asked a question in another thread about trigger jobs...how will the plaintiff ever know that a modification was done? Do they, as a matter of routine investigation, disassemble a gun to determine if there have been any modifications?

    Along the same lines, and I don't mean to be sarcastic at all, but if you are paranoid in that respect, does that mean you also refrain from loading your carry guns with defensive ammo (i.e., hollowpoints)? It seems to me that an attorney would have a heyday on the type of ammo used, more so than a trigger job or disabled lock...if you were ever negligent enough to disclose that the gun had been modified.

    Thoughts?
     

    40Arpent

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    Removing a "safety device" is only a real issue if the shoot is not clean. You might have a PI attorney try to depict you as some sort of reckless monster for disabling it, but if the shoot is clean, the gun should be back in your hands before the plaintiff even has a chance to contact an attorney.
    If the shooting is somehow painted as accidental, the fact you disabled the lock may be used against you.

    Of course if you are in Austin, the PD will try to hold the gun indefinately and destroy it out from under you. Once the case is No-Billed, go to the PD and scream very loudly to get it back.

    Again, how will they know it has been disabled?
     

    40Arpent

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    I will add that this particular revolver's intended use is not defense (it is my 14 yr. old son's), but I am interested in all opinions and insight.

    Thanks!
     

    boycan

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    Removing a "safety device" is only a real issue if the shoot is not clean. You might have a PI attorney try to depict you as some sort of reckless monster for disabling it, but if the shoot is clean, the gun should be back in your hands before the plaintiff even has a chance to contact an attorney.
    If the shooting is somehow painted as accidental, the fact you disabled the lock may be used against you.

    Of course if you are in Austin, the PD will try to hold the gun indefinately and destroy it out from under you. Once the case is No-Billed, go to the PD and scream very loudly to get it back.

    This is a lock not a safety so how can we be expected to take that little key and stick it in the keyhole anytime not being used? I see it's intention to be locked when it is stored with no intention of being used for SD just to render it useless if someone else gets hold of it. Mine will never be locked if there is even a remote chance it will be my HD or SD weapon. Just my two cents.
     

    txpolecat

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    Feb 16, 2009
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    Again, how will they know it has been disabled?
    Generally as was mentioned before, the police take the firearm used in the shooting until you holler bloody murder to get it back (no pun intended)

    I'd like to see some examples where a legit defense shooting was tainted by modifications to the firearm by the owner, does anyone have any?

    I would think that the conscious decision to pull the trigger knowing what the tool will do far overshadows any trivial mechanical modification you may apply to your own property.
     

    Lobo_79

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    May 17, 2008
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    ...does that mean you also refrain from loading your carry guns with defensive ammo (i.e., hollowpoints)?

    Thoughts?

    Nope, I'm not bashful about that at all. I usually carry a 9 mm HK P2000 V3 with Remington Gold Saber JHP +P rounds with one in the tube and 13 in the magazine. It's just that I've seen numerous home modifications done by other people to their handguns, and being an engineer I've actually had a few friends ask me how to recover from a modification that didn't quite go as planned.

    And, I agree with the argument that a valid self-defense shot should withstand scrutiny whether you have removed the lock or not.
     
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